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Old 01-22-2013, 04:47 PM
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NAD: Ampeg VT-22

After a brief search to quell my GAS, I found myself a VT-22 in decent shape. It's dead silent and looks like it's been a used a bit. The speakers were replaced with Sunn transducers ('77 Eminence like these) by a prior owner according to the guy I bought it from. I don't care either way, I bought it for the amplifier section at a fair price. Power tubes are 3x Magnavox + 1x Sovtek 7027A. It'll see a tech sometime soon just in case.

Now I'm off to play with it for a little while...


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Old 01-22-2013, 05:56 PM
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Well, this thing sounds great but I don't have any speaker cabinets at home I can really push it through. It's farting the Kustom 215 by the time it hits light OD so cranking it will have to wait. I'm digging on the EQ and voicing so far. Like most Ampegs, it plays very nice with my P's. It might help fight off my J Bass lust.

As far as tubes, the Sovtek is looking a little blue but the stock Magnavox still look free and clear. I'm still thinking I'll at least try 6550's in the amp but I'd have to drill out the bear trap retainers to make room. That will probably be my biggest stalling point. I don't like doing permanent modifications to vintage amps but it's already got non original speakers so what the heck, right?
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That looks like a sweet resto/mod project!
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:52 PM
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You're way more ambitious than me. I'd rather just use 7027's and call it a day.
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:07 PM
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You're way more ambitious than me. I'd rather just use 7027's and call it a day.
The unhealthy looking Sovtek 7027A in there is my excuse. Well, that and the matched quad of lightly used Aggie 6550's just hanging out. I'm probably going to do the work on this one myself. A labeled printed circuit board is a lot less scary than a point to point amp and a schematic.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:44 PM
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A blue glow inside a tube means very little unless only one has it. Blue glow is normal in operation.
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Old 01-23-2013, 05:57 PM
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Only the Sovtek is glowing blue at the moment.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:28 PM
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That may mean the Sovtek does not have a beam former as precise as the original tubes (more visible electron cloud). Does not mean it is bad, if no cloud can be seen in the original tubes even with a signal applied it could signal troubles with those or supporting components. Note : could...meaning possible not definite.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:44 AM
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Let me revise my statement, the Sovtek is noticeably more blue during operation. I need to be careful with my word choice!

I just pulled out the VT-22 and did a little research online. As it turns out, I believe the squareback Eminence speakers are stock. I've found several other late '70's VT-22 with the same speakers. The speakers are from the 17th week of '77. The last revision listed on the schematic was 8-9-77. I'll check some codes later but it's looking like it's a '77. Oh yeah, it has the master volume too.

Naked amps! Mesa Buster / VT-22. Look at those trannies!

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Old 01-24-2013, 11:59 AM
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So long as you are in the mindset of modding I moved the OT forward on my old V4B to provide more clearance between the OT and output tubes. Made a big difference in OT temp and cooling to the two output tubes.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:06 PM
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Is the V-22 (amp portion) the same as a V4/V4B?
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Is the V-22 (amp portion) the same as a V4/V4B?
Yes, same circuit.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:32 PM
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Here are the specs of the V4. Take note of the tone control range. Nice to know what they are.





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Note that the ultra-hi switch function is dependent on the volume setting.

Here is an explanation as to how it works.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:39 PM
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So long as you are in the mindset of modding I moved the OT forward on my old V4B to provide more clearance between the OT and output tubes. Made a big difference in OT temp and cooling to the two output tubes.
I like that idea. It already looks cramped with 7027A in there. We'll see how far I get in these next few weeks. I'll be ordering a few bits to make the 6550 conversion and going from there. I might build a headcase in the meantime...

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Here are the specs of the V4. Take note of the tone control ranger. Nice to know what they are.
Thanks! My particular amp's mids are labeled 300 / 1k / 3k. Nice to know how that ultra high works.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:53 PM
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Was trying to link an image for you but PhotoBucket is acting up today
Maybe you can get there this way http://s135.beta.photobucket.com/use...ml?sort=3&o=42
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:57 PM
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My particular amp's mids are labeled 300 / 1k / 3k
Engineers love changin things!
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:01 PM
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Engineers love changin things!
Me too! Maybe I should've finished out that EE degree.

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Was trying to link an image for you but PhotoBucket is acting up today
Maybe you can get there this way http://s135.beta.photobucket.com/use...ml?sort=3&o=42
It worked fine for me! Where would you recommend I buy spring tube retainers from?

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:16 PM
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Here ya go http://www.tubesandmore.com/products/S-H143
I cut the old bear trap clamps off flush, drilled new holes and used machine screws through the component side with kept nuts (leave some length exposed), another nut and lock washer to attach the spring lugs.
Fan I added wad an old 117VAC fan I had laying around (was a little loud).
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:03 PM
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Well, I went to Lowe's to get some plywood cut. The top/bottom and left/right side were both 1/4" different and they said they couldn't fix it. (Recutting them would have been too much?) I left them there.

I've exhausted the list of local cabinet makers. They don't do small jobs. I can't do any work here thanks to my mother's hoarding so I'm at a very frustrated impasse. Looks like I'll farm another head case out to John...
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