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CL400Peavey 06-10-2012 10:33 PM

NAD - ART Pro Channel II
 



Ok so I have been sitting on my review of this pre-amp for a bit. I got it about a week ago and wanted to have enough time playing through it so I’m not just tossing out first impressions. I have spent a bit of time with each of my basses: MIA Fender Jazz deluxe, Squire P-Bass, EBMM Stingray HS 5. I have been using ART (via XLR out) and a Peavey IPR 1600 to drive my fEARful cabs: 15/6 and 1515/66/1. So to keep short attention spans from getting board I am going to start my review at the end and give you my over all impressions, and then break down the particulars.

This pre-amp is fantastic, tons of control without feeling cumbersome. I think this is because all the components are grouped into smaller sections. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend for anyone who is looking for a lot of bang for their buck. I would love to have some of the really boutique pre amps in my line up, but for $250 bucks brand new this is hard to beat. I urge anyone who is even thinking about a Pre/power set up to try one of these.
On to the specifics.

“Pre amp section”
The first thing to note is that there is a Mic pre-amp section that won’t be used for EB. This gain section is pretty simple which is a good thing. For my tastes I like the tube voltage set to high, and I have the gain pushed to where I can keep a mostly clean sound when playing with an even touch, but I get some break up with a more aggressive playing style. The “Low cut” aka High Pass Filter was initially a disappointment, but through playing with the settings I have really come to like it. The HPF has a 6 db/oct slope, this isn’t really enough for what I wanted out of a HPF. Set it low and let it kill everything that I don’t want the system to try and reproduce. What it is really good for is tightening up the bottom end with out killing it. The best way I can describe it is that it is kind of like a mid point between a ported and sealed cab. You can really control “boomyness” while not losing the low end, or having such a big roll off like you would with a sealed cab. The last thing in this section which I have not played with is the effects loop. The preamp out put knob lets you adjust the signal that comes out of this section before it goes through the loop.

“Compressor”

The compressor is as simple or complex as you want it to be. It is bypassable for those that don’t care to fool with it. What turns this section into a more complex tool is the fact that the attack and release can be set to manual or auto. You can tailor these if you wish, I just leave it on auto. Other that this the other knobs are pretty simple, threshold sets the level at which compression kicks in, ratio is how much it squashes the spikes, and the output controls the level sent from this section before it goes into the second effects loop. I leave the threshold at noon, the ratio at 3:1, the output at noon, and the lower controls at auto.

“EQ”
Here is a big strength to this pre amp. If all that was included in the preamp was the EQ it would be worth the price new. The high and low knobs are shelving set in their standard modes. The low can be switched to 120Hz which helps dial in some punch. Both the low and high mid knobs are sweep able with a a “10X” button. As an example Low-Mid normally scales from 20-200 Hz. With the 10x button engaged it now controls a region from 200-2000Hz. High-Mid is from 200-2kHz normally or 2kHz-20kHz. Another very useful option here is the “wide/narrow” buttons on both the mid controls. These do pretty much what you expect, change how much of the signal around the selected frequency is bumped or decreased. A really good example of how this is useful is when I’m using the humbucker on my stingray with all the knobs dimed. I set the “high-mid” knob to 200Hz, engage the 10x and the narrow buttons. Now I have a narrow boost/cut at 2KHz. I pull this frequency range down to eliminate a bit of finger clack when smacking around the Ray. This leaves the low know set at 120Hz to boost some low mid punch, and the Low-mid knob to control how I sit in the mix. Additionally there is an “EQ-defeat” button in case you wanted to use an external EQ section.

“The rest”
The master output does just what you would expect, control the output of the whole unit. The meters are pretty cool here as well. There is a preamp meter showing how much break up is in the signal chain. There is also a meter showing how much compression is going on. The VU meter initially shows the output of the whole preamp, but can be switched to show the signal lever after the compressor, or after the EQ. Its flashy, not necessary, and ridiculously cool! With all this said I have not had a chance to consult the tube guru’s and roll the pre amp tube. I will get around to all that, but right now I am just enjoying the tonal control this unit is giving me. Combined with the IPR 1600 and my 1515/66 it is a fricken monster.

RNV 06-11-2012 03:53 AM

Good info. Thank you Sir. I believe you are helping me move towards the trigger.

CL400Peavey 07-11-2012 06:30 PM

So I started the tube rolling process. First go is with an ancient RCA 12AX7 from an old Fender Twin in the Pre, and a EH 12AX7 for the compressor. First impressions is that they are a marked improvement. Tonally better, but not sure if its exactly what I want.

mulchor 07-11-2012 06:39 PM

Thanks for this. I've eyed this for a while, cuz of the low price and wide set of options. Never actually played one, tho.

CL400Peavey 07-11-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mulchor (Post 12892682)
Thanks for this. I've eyed this for a while, cuz of the low price and wide set of options. Never actually played one, tho.

I bought one having never played it, on the recommendations of a few people. This thing is killer for the price. If they were asking double the price it would still be a good deal for this pre amp.

Primakurtz 07-11-2012 10:20 PM

Try a 12AT7 in the compressor and/or eq sections. Congrats on the preamp score!

CL400Peavey 07-11-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Primakurtz (Post 12893513)
Try a 12AT7 in the compressor and/or eq sections. Congrats on the preamp score!

There was a really cheap one in the compressor slot. What I have in there now may not be optimal, but its a lot better than what it came with.

MCrBass32 12-20-2012 08:07 AM

You, my friend, have cleansed me of my infernal incompetence. Thank you.

CL400Peavey 12-20-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MCrBass32 (Post 13603804)
You, my friend, have cleansed me of my infernal incompetence. Thank you.

Thanks?
:D

dukeorock 12-20-2012 08:21 AM

Great review, Julian...THANKS!

CL400Peavey 12-20-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dukeorock (Post 13603862)
Great review, Julian...THANKS!

Seriously I wish you lived closer. You have gear I want to try, and I know I have some you would love to take out for a test drive. The thing that really made my ART king? Pulled a vintage RCA 12ax7 out of my dads pile of tubes...

dukeorock 12-20-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13603924)
Seriously I wish you lived closer. You have gear I want to try, and I know I have some you would love to take out for a test drive. The thing that really made my ART king? Pulled a vintage RCA 12ax7 out of my dads pile of tubes...

Oh yeah...I love a good gear nerd day! Having a few friends who try different things really helps to educate ones self on what options are out there, and how best to use them.

I may look into that pre after the holiday is over...sure is tempting :)

CL400Peavey 12-20-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dukeorock (Post 13603946)
I may look into that pre after the holiday is over...sure is tempting :)

I spent about $600 total on my ART, IPR, and case. I dont know of any amp out there that is as powerful, gives you as much control, or sounds as good for the same price.

CL400Peavey 12-20-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13603956)
I spent about $600 total on my ART, IPR, and case. I dont know of any amp out there that is as powerful, gives you as much control, or sounds as good for the same price.

And I have been reminding myself of this every time my amp gas stirs up a bit... Also I am really digging the fact I can run a pre amp pedal off of the phantom power on my ART's mic input. pretty much lets you choose your distortion channel at will.

dukeorock 12-20-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13603966)
And I have been reminding myself of this every time my amp gas stirs up a bit... Also I am really digging the fact I can run a pre amp pedal off of the phantom power on my ART's mic input. pretty much lets you choose your distortion channel at will.

Nice option!

mmooneyham 02-23-2013 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey (Post 13603966)
And I have been reminding myself of this every time my amp gas stirs up a bit... Also I am really digging the fact I can run a pre amp pedal off of the phantom power on my ART's mic input. pretty much lets you choose your distortion channel at will.

can you clarify this appllication?

CL400Peavey 02-23-2013 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mmooneyham (Post 13926478)
can you clarify this appllication?

The TH will run off phantom power. The art has an XLR input with phantom power. I use a XLR cable to both power, and carry signal from my TH to my ART.


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