need advice! . . . What cabs to get with TC RH750

[bassman2001]

Alright so I took the plunge on a TC RH750 head. I played it last weekend at a show with 300 people, in a decent size conference room. I used a mesa boogie 4x10 powerhouse cab.

The result....There wasn't enough low end for me and I felt like the cab couldn't keep up to where I wanted my sound.

I play modern rock, almost like a coldplay type feel. ‪Jason Zerbin‬‏ - YouTube That's one of our songs in case you care to take a listen. We do a lot of ambient type stuff as well and I like to have a very round, wide, thick low end that sustains. I don't do much funk or jazz but mainly want to carry a thick presence of bass and I found that my 4x10 cab paired with the RH750 didn't suffice...With the guitars blazing and the drummer going hard i found that my low end just got lost and when Id go back to my amp and kneel down to listen Id hear the speakers fighting/farting.

Anyways, my budget is $2000'ish, I want another cab set up, and will be selling my mesa powerhouse 4x10.

Here's what I'm thinking:

TC electronic 2 RS 212 cabs, possibly even combined with an RS 410?

Ampeg PN (neo) 115 paired with a PN 410. I know that many bass players have opinions with pairing different size speakers...what do you guys think? For my sound wants/needs should I stick to 2 15" cabs? scrap the 10's all together?

Any suggestions on cab(s) I should get with my RH750 head that will provide my a very fat, round low end?

Thanks for taking the time to read this, looking forward to your responses!

[bassclef04]

I would look into the Genz Uber line or Aguilar DB line of cabs.

[masonsjax]

Look at fEARful cabs (link in my sig). They are more capable than pretty much anything else out there. Authorized builders are listed in that link, or you can take a stab at building your own if you're the adventurous type.

[RickenBoogie]

Both suggestions above are spot on. I personally love the GB Uber line, but the fEARful's also get alot of well deserved praise.

[lo-freq]

Might want to try one of these: Aguilar DB412

[bassman2001]

What makes fEARful cabs so special? Anything in particular?

So you think I should stay away from TC and Ampeg cabs? reasons?

[masonsjax]

Originally Posted by bassman2001

What makes fEARful cabs so special? Anything in particular?

So you think I should stay away from TC and Ampeg cabs? reasons?

Here is a list of the main advantages of the fEARful cabs. What's so special about them? Everything of course!
fEARful advantages

[bassclef04]

Good option!

Originally Posted by masonsjax

Look at fEARful cabs (link in my sig). They are more capable than pretty much anything else out there. Authorized builders are listed in that link, or you can take a stab at building your own if you're the adventurous type.

[bassman2001]

Anyone else got some advice? I'm gunna try some berg AE stuff tonight, as well as ampeg pro neo series...if i don't like those i'll default to a few TC cabs and mix and match em

[bassclef04]

What configuration are the fearful cabs? Is it just the 1x12?

Originally Posted by masonsjax

Here is a list of the main advantages of the fEARful cabs. What's so special about them? Everything of course!
fEARful advantages

[bassclef04]

Ok I see the different cabs.

[::::BASSIST::::]

Originally Posted by masonsjax

Look at fEARful cabs (link in my sig). They are more capable than pretty much anything else out there. Authorized builders are listed in that link, or you can take a stab at building your own if you're the adventurous type.

+1

[parapentep70]

After a lot of research I plan to get an RH750 next week and I am building myself something similar to a fEARful 15/6 plus a 15 sub and also similar to a couple of Barefaced Compact, one of them with a horn.

Fully convinced of the advantages of modern big drivers with high excursion, high efficiency and control of dispersion in the mid freqs.

[lo-freq]

Originally Posted by lo-freq

Might want to try one of these: Aguilar DB412

...or a pair of these: Aguilar DB212.

[bassman2001]

Can someone explain to me what Fearful is? Do they just give you a design and you have to build it yourself? I'm not skilled enough to do that . . . lol.

I played a fender pro 215 last night, it was pretty massive sounding...it was hard to tell though because the bass amp room is a small enclosed room so anything will sound "big" in there.

My main question after cab shopping last night is how much does frequency response matter? The TC electronic 212 cabs go as low as 59Hz where as an ampeg 115 will go to 28Hz...if I'm a bass player seeking lowend power will the 59Hz on the TC 212 be more than enough??

[wcriley]

fEARful cabs can be built from scratch, bought as kits (including precut wood and assembly instructions), fully assembled units, and anything in between.

fEARful™ enclosures for bass/drums/keys

Don't pay much attention to the frequency range published by manufacturers. They might be OK for comparing cabs within the same line, but are pretty much meaningless when comparing between different manufacturers. There doesn't seem to be a standardized method of measuring/reporting these specs.

[Dekker]

Originally Posted by bassman2001

Can someone explain to me what Fearful is?

The fEARful is a line of speaker cabinets designed by greenboy and presented to the DIYers of the world. As mentioned above, it offers many advantages over commercially offered cabinets.

Originally Posted by bassman2001

Do they just give you a design and you have to build it yourself? I'm not skilled enough to do that . . . lol.

Yes, they are DIY, however there are authorized builders who can make one for you, with the personalized customizations you desire (within the limits of the cabinet design, of course). [full disclosure, I am one of the authorized builders]

Originally Posted by bassman2001

My main question after cab shopping last night is how much does frequency response matter? The TC electronic 212 cabs go as low as 59Hz where as an ampeg 115 will go to 28Hz...if I'm a bass player seeking lowend power will the 59Hz on the TC 212 be more than enough??

That's a loaded question, and one for which you will receive oodles of opinions, but essentially you have to be careful. Though no-one is lying with their numbers, they are often taken out of context, and there is no formalized standard of presenting the numbers. The ampeg will go to 28Hz, but is it at -3db or -10db? How about the TC cab? What distortion levels at the extremes? It may make a sound at the edge of its range, but is it one you really want to hear? Just make sure you are comparing apples to apples when you look at frequency ranges and such numbers.

Dekker

[bassman2001]

Thanks Dekker, we might be in touch!

[babebambi]

That RC750 is not the ideal kinda amp to take advantage of the fEareful's capability

IMO, fEareful are for higher power applications
For example as in CA9 kinda power level

Of koz the fEarful cab does not need the higher power to function
If you already the cab, then play it with what ever amp that sounds good
But if you are building the rig from scratch, then there are better match


If you like the RH750, and would like to stay with a more conventional type of cab, then your head pair very well with 3x RS212 or 2x RS410


Edit
Just re-read the op
Looks like you have no intention of going big rig like a 810 kinda rig
In that case a fEarful 1212/6 will be my recommendation

[wcriley]

Maybe not the max SPL capability, but any amp can/will take advantage of the tonal capabilities.