Need suggestions for super light and small 15" or 1x15 cab

mattsk42 · #1 06-25-2011, 09:06 AM

I'm perfectly satisfied with my BFM Omni 10.5 cabs and my Portabass 2x10. BUT, I need more low end and more volume.

I want a 15" or 12" that gives more "round", "full" low end and is the lightest and smallest 15/12 you can find or make. Give me any suggestions you have. Budget is open at this point.

I DO like the mids and cut I get from the BFM Omni, so I don't want to just "dial in" more bass. I want to ADD to that sound.

shoot-r · #2 06-25-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mattsk42

I'm perfectly satisfied with my BFM Omni 10.5 cabs and my Portabass 2x10. BUT, I need more low end.

I want the lightest and smallest 15 you can find or make for portability reasons. Give me any suggestions you have. Budget is open at this point.

Schroeder 15L.
Small, light, LOUD...

1n3 · #3 06-25-2011, 10:04 AM

Do you want a cab to run with your Omni, or instead of your Omni?

mattsk42 · #4 06-25-2011, 10:46 AM

To go with one or both of the Omni 10.5 cabs.

shoot-r · #5 06-25-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot-r

Schroeder 15L.
Small, light, LOUD...

I was just at Schroeder's web-site.
They've some new 15" loaded cabinets.
Small and in the mid 30 lbs. range.
Available in 4 or 8 ohms.

RickenBoogie · #6 06-25-2011, 11:12 AM

You will NOT get more low end just by adding a 15, unless the particular 15 you get is designed for better low end response. Just because it's a 15, does not mean it will provide more low end than a cabinet loaded with 10's. Might want to do a bit more research on the topic.

mattsk42 · #7 06-25-2011, 11:17 AM

Yeah, I guess I kind of knew that. I should have specified "warm/full/thick" in addition to the cut through Omni cabs is what I'm looking for. Thanks for pointing that out.

shoot-r · #8 06-25-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RickenBoogie

You will NOT get more low end just by adding a 15, unless the particular 15 you get is designed for better low end response. Just because it's a 15, does not mean it will provide more low end than a cabinet loaded with 10's. Might want to do a bit more research on the topic.

+1...also,

How did the saying go.......

Small, loud, low.......pick two......you can't have all three!

1n3 · #9 06-25-2011, 11:43 AM

+1 to RickenBoogie and shoot-r. The goals of "more low end" and "smallest" are at odds. Also suggest you browse the FAQs for threads about mixing full-range speakers.

You haven't told us anything about your amp. A couple thoughts -
1. Get a good sub cabinet (won't be small) and bi-amp it with one of your Omnis, crossed ~200hz.
2. Replace the Omnis with something that has stronger low-end performance. In the DIY world, the BFM Omni12 and Omni15 come to mind, or a fEarful.

shoot-r · #10 06-25-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 1n3

or a fEarful.

+1...

Or if you don't want to DIY with a fEarful, the new Avatar TB153 might be the thing.
I'm thinkin' about the Avatar 153 myself.

Never_grew_up · #11 06-25-2011, 05:46 PM

You'll need to biamp if you want the 15 to basically act as a sub. Since you already have a BFM Omni, why not a Jack 15 w/no tweeters?

rpsands · #12 06-25-2011, 07:47 PM

Mixing different BFM cabs is a bad idea.

If you're happy with your current cabs, but you need more volume and low end, how are you happy with your current cabs? That sounds like the very definition of not being satisfied with your current cabs, to me.

socknroll1 · #13 06-25-2011, 08:06 PM

Matt...I am thinking about parting with a SWR Golight 115. A bit tall with EB casters on it, but they can be removed. About 42 lbs. Let me know if you're interested.

1n3 · #14 06-25-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rpsands

Mixing different BFM cabs is a bad idea.

... those two BFM cabs, at least. The Jack15 is pretty big (5.6cf). The larger size (compared to a normal ported cabinet) buys more sensitivity above 100hz, but the OP probably wants a boost below that. A fEarful sub or a T39 would make more sense. This is probably academic; I doubt the OP has bi-amping capability, or the desire to use cabs that large.

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If you're happy with your current cabs, but you need more volume and low end, how are you happy with your current cabs? That sounds like the very definition of not being satisfied with your current cabs, to me.

Yup. Maybe your Omnis could be converted to PA duty, and you could get something that goes louder/lower for bass. ?

Rockmusician · #15 06-25-2011, 08:34 PM

[quote=mattsk42;11095331]I'm perfectly satisfied with my BFM Omni 10.5 cabs and my Portabass 2x10. BUT, I need more low end and more volume. QUOTE]

If this is the case, you are not perfectly satisfied with you BMF Omni 10.5 cabs and Portabass 2X10. I suggest you try Edeor EBS.

Standalone · #16 06-26-2011, 07:43 PM

t39 is a good place to start. Your horn loaded cabs need a sub, not a full range 15"

I play Bag End S15D's. I love how they sound. I can't imagine that they would be best used as subs under some Omnis.

billfitzmaurice · #17 06-26-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mattsk42

I DO like the mids and cut I get from the BFM Omni, so I don't want to just "dial in" more bass. I want to ADD to that sound.

Not with anything small and light. T24 or T39, anything less isn't worthwhile. Hoffman's Iron Law is a law, not a suggestion.

TimmyP · #18 06-26-2011, 09:31 PM

The two "deepest" cabs I've heard were an Acme LowB2, and a Hughes & Kettner 4x10 (model unknown).

billfitzmaurice · #19 06-26-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TimmyP

The two "deepest" cabs I've heard were an Acme LowB2, and a Hughes & Kettner 4x10 (model unknown).

But the Acme at least is has low sensitivity, and it's not going to keep up with the high midrange sensitivity of the O10.5 cabs. Small, goes low, has high sensitivity. Pick two, any two, but you can't have all three.

Standalone · #20 06-27-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

But the Acme at least is has low sensitivity, and it's not going to keep up with the high midrange sensitivity of the O10.5 cabs. Small, goes low, has high sensitivity. Pick two, any two, but you can't have all three.

I have to say that my S15D's are placed just right on that continuum of loud, small, and low. Just a 44lb 18" cube and sensitive as heck. They make their compromise on the low I guess, but for club gigs and supported outdoor stuff, the bass rolloff is just where I want it.

I still want to load the 4 ohm BP104 I have sitting around into one of your tuba designs and see what the low section of my 800RB does with it!