It never ends (GK, Ampeg, Berg content)
Current gigging rig = SVT 7 pro into one or 2 Bergantino HD 112s depending on the venue. When the 2 HDs don't cut it I use my HD410. Amazed at what the bergs can handle, but they have their limits. Main basses are Fender American Deluxe Jazz, and Fender American P.
Rig sounds great in my Americana/country/soul/jam band. Band is relatively quite, I go pillowy, thick and full sounding.
Other two bands are much more diverse and I'm having issues. Never seem to cut through quite enough, lack mids, lack articulation etc. Been frustrated with the mids all together on the 7pro. Plus the 2 HDs are not quite enough on some gigs which is a bummer. The 7pro has HEAPS of power and plenty of lowend (and is super warm at that)- just doesn't quite bite enough for me. Maybe I'm really just a solid state guy in disguise....
So in my home rehearsal studio I threw my old GK 1001rb 210 combo in since it's small and we don't play too loud in my space, and it allows me to keep the giggin rig close to my car. EVERY single member of both bands have commented on how much better my tone is, how much better they can hear me, how much better they can feel me. ugh.....
So I just got done bringing my entire rig into my studio and a/bing both set ups as well as running both of my bergs off of the GK. To my dismay the GK sounds a bunch better than my 7pro with regards to my issues above. Much more mid presence, loads of low end, lot's of variety in possible tones etc.
Problem is that a) it's in a 210 combo and has no chassis. b) most of the pots are scratchy and hissy (and this is after taking it apart and blowing it out).
Bottom line is now I'm all turned around :( Should I buy a new GK 1001rb, should I figure out how to refurbish the one I have (or send it out to someone), and should I consider moving into new speakers. I'm thinking two 212s (neo), or one 112 and one 212. I have no experience with the GKs neos so ANYONE please fee free to chime away.
Bergantino HDs are awesome, just not quite enough for me. Wasn't a huge fan of the CNs when I played them but will give them another chance I suppose (found them annoying in the mids when pushed hard).
Feel free to throw advice out there. And if you think one of the other GK heads is a contender (mb800) etc with the 1001 please chime in- any input is good input.....
Have you played around with the mid selector switch on the 7 Pro? It makes a big difference.
With that said, I love my GK gear. I'd go for a new (re: used) 1001 RB-II and play the crap out of it with the HD410.
yeah, explored the mid selector in all it's glory. Lot's of different frequencies there, none that get me where I want to go...
HD410 is too damn heavy for me to gig with all the time. Great cab though, just too much to lug around...
Sell it for a CN212 ;)
I've heard nothing but good things about the GK Neo 212's. Oh, and you may want to take a look at the MB800 too. I was always an RB series guy, but I tried out an MB500 and was very happy at how close it sounded to the RB series. It's a tiny head and weighs nothing, so I had nothing to complain about.
GK stuff just sounds good. Every time.
Pots can be cleaned an lubricated with contact cleaner. Just blowing air on them doesn't do much. You have to get a bit of the cleaner into the pot through openings in the potentiometer body(assuming they are not sealed pots) and work the pot to get it distributed. You can also clean board connectors to try to reduce noise. If it still hisses, the opamps have probably deteriorated but you can get them replaced by a tech.
You can also connect extension speakers to your GK combo if it's not loud enough (keeping a ear out for polarity/phase issues if you're not using matching extension cabs). I think you have a great rig already with the GK set up. Just got to service it.
Read your GK1001RB owners manual for more detailed information on extension cabinets (pg 12).
Hi! In addition to the above great suggestions, can I also recommend trying a parametric eq of some sort before your amp? I have a Boss Bass Parametric Equaliser and it is UNBELEIBABLE for obtaining ANY sound you want to cut or blend in a mix. I run this before a GK 800rb, but try it with your 7 pro before replacing any gear... :)
When I need to play louder than 2 AE112 cabs will go I just add a third.
I have a 2ohm Thunderfunk.
Great sound, loud and light.
I will look into servicing the GK myself. How do you apply the contact cleaner to the knobs? From behind? Is it a spray or do you use a Q-tip?
Regarding just using an extension cab with the combo- solid idea but the problem is the weight of the combo- damn little thing is a beast to lift up into my truck- these older cabs are HEAVY.
I've been thinking about a 2ohm capable amp as well- would open up a lot of doors with regards to cabs. Was looking at the Fender Super Bassman, but I got sidetracked going back to the GK1001RB. Tell me about that Thunderfunk- only time I've played one was at NAMM years ago when Accugroove was a few booths down from mine and I jammed a fair amount on their stuff (they only had Thunderfunk heads)...
My goal is thick, tight, articulate, and warm. I also do quite a bit of reggae/dub- need to really open up down low (sometimes). I'm thinking 2X12 would handle about 80% of my gigs, and a second (or possibly just another 112) added would finish me off. Problem is that I want them all matching- and a lot of 2X12s are 4ohms. Takes me back to the 2 ohm capable amp. ugh.....
another GK refurbish question. Can you buy the top chassis? When I went to pull it out of the cab I was surprised to find no top body. Would it need one if it were going into a rack? I'd rather not rackmount it but can, Lord knows I have some laying around ;)
nice suggestion regarding the eq- I've got some pedals that could potentially help sculpt my sound but I'm trying to get 100% away from pedals and find my tone with my fingers, strings, bass, amp, and cabs. Trying to lighten the load and reduce gear....
You apply contact cleaner to the potentiometer, not the knob. The knob is just the round plastic handle attached to the shaft of the potentiometer to make it easy to manipulate. You need to open up the amplifier to expose the potentiometer and use a spray tip to try to get it into the opening of the potentiometer, usually right under the 3 potentiometer contacts. If this sounds daunting, just send it to an amp tech.
If you and the band like the sound of the GK, instead of buying a new GK1001RB, you might consider trading the combo for a 1001RB head. You can contact GK and explain to them what you are trying to do and see if they will sell you the chassis.
Last I knew the amp cover was $40.00 + shipping P/N 132-0593-E
or (209) 234-7300 extension 120. 9am to 4pm PST USA
G-K has great 8 ohm 212 cabs BTW. If you plan on a different 212 that is 4 ohm and you want to keep the G-K sound look at the 2001RB. It will do 2 ohms per side allowing you to run four 212 4 ohm cabs with 1080 watts.
Took all the knobs off, cleaned and lubricated the dials although the pots are closed I believe. Put everything back together and sounds great. I ordered a rack kit not knowing if I actually need a cover or not. When it arrives I'll see if the cover is needed.
Does anyone have any feedback or thoughts on the GK 212s VS the BErg 212s? I'm very familiar with the bergs, not at all with the GKs.
The Bergs will have a more traditional sound, the NEO212 II has a slight grindy sound up close that turns smooth, buttery and very present out front.
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