New Barefaced Midget T

MOSCOWBASS · #1 10-18-2010, 08:02 AM

Just arrived and very impressive in the "living room" test, big bottom for such a small and lightweight cab. Will post more after some gigs and the speaker beds in

KJung · #2 10-18-2010, 08:03 AM

Cool. Hadn't seen one with a tweeter before.

rpsands · #3 10-18-2010, 10:04 AM

It'd been rumored but never pictured...it looks ridiculous

But I bet it sounds awesome, if it's anything like the 3012HO cab I used based on the Midget. Great woofer, and probably sounds a lot better with a nice tweeter on top.

ursus · #4 10-18-2010, 10:10 AM

Looking forward to read about the gig test. I´m very interested of buying one myself and run it together with my TKS 1x12.

tombowlus · #5 10-18-2010, 04:11 PM

Those are some very cool cabs. I look forward to being able to check one out, someday.

SactoBass · #6 10-18-2010, 04:17 PM

Wasn't there a TB'er located here in the USA who ordered a Barefaced "Big One" recently and said he would give us a review of it? I wonder what the status of that is. (Sorry if this is considered a derail, but there seems to be very few Barefaced cabs being played here in the USA.)

MOSCOWBASS · #7 03-16-2011, 06:10 AM

"Barefaced" rig complete now: amp 4lbs, top speaker 22lbs, bottom speaker 26lbs. Much easier on the back, and most gigs only need top speaker.
I've used the Midget T (top) quite a bit now, it's a really big sound for the size. It easily replaces my EA NL210 for volume and has similar sound, maybe a bit more aggressive upper mids. I had a loan of a second Midget t while my Compact was being built....it was awesome, It subjectively sounded as big and loud as my UL2 4x10, but without the upper mid hole, I did consider just keeping the 2 Midgets, but had to find out what the Compact (bottom) would add.
Haven't gigged with the Compact yet, but the additional low mid boost compared to 2 Midgets feels like 3 Midgets!

.....and before anyone comments, that is the first "wood burning" shuttle 9

Nickthebass · #8 03-16-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MOSCOWBASS

"Barefaced" rig complete now: amp 4lbs, top speaker 22lbs, bottom speaker 26lbs. Much easier on the back, and most gigs only need top speaker.
I've used the Midget T (top) quite a bit now, it's a really big sound for the size. It easily replaces my EA NL210 for volume and has similar sound, maybe a bit more aggressive upper mids. I had a loan of a second Midget t while my Compact was being built....it was awesome, It subjectively sounded as big and loud as my UL2 4x10, but without the upper mid hole, I did consider just keeping the 2 Midgets, but had to find out what the Compact (bottom) would add.
Haven't gigged with the Compact yet, but the additional low mid boost compared to 2 Midgets feels like 3 Midgets!

My one big question is ... how much of a pain is having the tweeter attenuator in the bottom port? I'm probably going to have it rolled off most of the time as my (soon to be) main gig is a blues trio. However I want to have the option in the future of a little more top if I want it.

Any chance of a gig report on the Compact + Midget T set up soon? By the looks of the pic your set up is pretty much what I'm planning, aside from a Streamliner instead of a Shuttle.

J bass of some description --> STM 900 --> Midget (T or not is to be decided) --> Compact

Then mix and match as the gig requires.

MOSCOWBASS · #9 03-16-2011, 07:01 AM

I haven't found the tweeter control in the port a problem. It's reasonably ok to adjust by feel, but I don't move it too much, it's usually full up and I back the passive tone control off on the bass pre. It's very much a personal tone thing, but I couldn't live without the tweeter, also if the streamliner is darker than the shuttle, you might be glad of it. When stacked with the compact the tweeter control is at the top end of the Midget port.
When I use the single Midget T I use the LF boost switch on the Shuttle, with 2 Midget t's (second Midget tweeter off), it was too much LF at the venues I used them at, so EQ was flat on amp and very slight trims on bass pre to suit venue.

Nickthebass · #10 03-16-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MOSCOWBASS

I haven't found the tweeter control in the port a problem. It's reasonably ok to adjust by feel, but I don't move it too much, it's usually full up and I back the passive tone control off on the bass pre. It's very much a personal tone thing, but I couldn't live without the tweeter, also if the streamliner is darker than the shuttle, you might be glad of it. When stacked with the compact the tweeter control is at the top end of the Midget port.
When I use the single Midget T I use the LF boost switch on the Shuttle, with 2 Midget t's (second Midget tweeter off), it was too much LF at the venues I used them at, so EQ was flat on amp and very slight trims on bass pre to suit venue.

Thanks for this. I was leaning towards the Midget T on the "rather have it and not need it basis". I was a little concerned about the weird position of the attenuator but I think I should be able to live with it. (It'll be off most of the time and I'm only expecting to use the 1x12 stacked with the Compact.)

Midget T it is then.

pbasswil · #11 05-20-2011, 09:43 AM

Just ordered up a Barefaced Midget T. :-) ) )

I do a miscellaneous assortment of little gigs -- often with bad parking, where it's highly preferable to load in in one trip.

The ability to get the Midget's level of volume out of a box that I can carry a fair distance in one hand is going to make a great contribution to my quality of life! I'm stoked.

It's not cheap to get one to Montréal, but I have complete confidence that I'll never regret this investment.

::::BASSIST:::: · #12 05-20-2011, 10:11 AM

I have the BF Compact and it is amazingly portable at 27.4LBS. With the strap on the side it carries like a suitcase. Super easy. The low end is not deep and beefy but its a trade off I can live with for its portability.

pbasswil · #13 05-20-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ::::BASSIST::::

I have the BF Compact and it is amazingly portable at 27.4LBS. With the strap on the side it carries like a suitcase. Super easy. The low end is not deep and beefy but its a trade off I can live with for its portability.

If you don't push the volume too far, have you found it possible to EQ in a good portion of the missing lows?

I'll be using a Shuttle 9 with my Midget -- so I'll have both the Low shelving knob anchored at 80hz, as well as a Low Boost switch which bumps up the octave below that. I'm thinking that a combo of those two should add a lot of beef, as long as I'm not playing up near the volume/excursion limits of the driver.

::::BASSIST:::: · #14 05-20-2011, 12:52 PM

Yes, you can beef it up some for sure. However, my other cab is a 15/6 and there is just no comparison in terms of fullness and low-end. The 15/6 wipes the floor with the Compact. Of course, the 15/6 is MUCH more awkward to move. Anything bigger than a small venue and I drag out the 15/6 though.

pbasswil · #15 05-20-2011, 02:05 PM

Gotcha, Bassist. I bet I do smaller, lower volume jobs than you, a lot of the time. I could probably manage most of my freelance jobs with the Midget, let alone a Compact.

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Originally Posted by ::::BASSIST::::

Yes, you can beef it up some for sure. However, my other cab is a 15/6 and there is just no comparison in terms of fullness and low-end. The 15/6 wipes the floor with the Compact. Of course, the 15/6 is MUCH more awkward to move. Anything bigger than a small venue and I drag out the 15/6 though.

pbasswil · #16 05-20-2011, 02:09 PM

Say, would anybody possibly be able to PM me Alex's mailing address?

My bank won't wire money without it; and it's hard to know how long before Alex has time to respond to my email requesting it.

Thanks!

rpsands · #17 05-20-2011, 02:18 PM

Why wouldn't you just paypal it? Seems a lot safer than wiring for all involved and less of a hassle. Wire fees can be brutal.

pbasswil · #18 05-20-2011, 03:24 PM

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Why wouldn't you just paypal it? Seems a lot safer than wiring for all involved and less of a hassle. Wire fees can be brutal.

Alex missed my emailed question about how much Paypal fees would be. When I tried to find out from inside my Paypal account it said Free for me, with a "small fee for the seller".
I assumed that that was code for "the most we can charge without losing the business". Otherwise why wouldn't they just disclose it?

Of course Alex will pass any fees like that on to me (it's only fair). But I have no idea what it amounts to -- is it a percentage? I have to send around $900 Canadian.

I decided to wire him the money because it's already become a really slow transaction, and I didn't know how to find out whether P.P. would be cheaper or not.

Either way, I have to wait for him to respond with his address, or with his Paypal user name.

Thanks for any help.

rpsands · #19 05-20-2011, 03:37 PM

PayPal Fee Calculator by Ryan Olbe (Last Updated: May 12, 2011) seems good.

::::BASSIST:::: · #20 05-20-2011, 04:08 PM

I wired him the money as well. Its the way he prefers to do things and I dont think he accepts paypal as an option. I got my Compact last fall so I dont have his address. He seems pretty good at returning emails or maybe PM him thru talkbass.