New Palmer Tube Di?

Son of Bovril · #1 02-08-2013, 01:26 AM

http://www.palmer-germany.com/mi/en/...Box-PDICTC.htm

Anyone have any experience with these? Their normal DI boxes are really good from the little experience I have with them, and this looks like it could be promising?

Hobobob · #2 02-08-2013, 01:33 AM

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...rdir=1&nN=true

Looks expensive.

Son of Bovril · #3 02-08-2013, 01:39 AM

Yeah it does... around the price of a REDDI I think, wondering if it is a fair competitor?

Son of Bovril · #4 02-08-2013, 01:49 AM

I see the Bassist from the Black Keys is using one, don't really know their sound though...

JimmyM · #5 02-08-2013, 02:05 AM

Just looked them up...The Palmer DI is $1250 in the US. REDDI's $745. Palmer's from Germany, if I remember correctly, and well known for high end speaker simulation circuits. I'm no electronics expert, but the Palmer looks like it's just tubes and no output transformer, and it seems pretty lightweight for it to have one. Looks like a high end hybrid circuit rather than full-on tube/transformer like the REDDI. Probably a very nice sounding DI, but a different vibe from the REDDI.

Hobobob · #6 02-08-2013, 02:09 AM

The spec sheet says it's full tube (no semiconductors) and transformer balanced.

JimmyM · #7 02-08-2013, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobobob

The spec sheet says it's full tube (no semiconductors) and transformer balanced.

Ya, it does have a transformer in the path, but it's likely not the same kind of big iron output transformer in the REDDI. Not if it weighs less than 6 lbs. Sounds to me more like those Jensen transformers that are smaller and show up in a lot of DI's. Again, this is all just based on looking at the gutshot and weight and putting 2 and 2 together, but the output transformer in the REDDI is the kind usually only seen in full-on tube amps and weighs a few pounds by itself. Not to say that the Palmer won't sound good, though. Wouldn't know that unless I heard it.

Hobobob · #8 02-08-2013, 02:48 AM

The thing that makes me scratch my head is the strangely-implemented 4 band 'EQ'. You get 3 levels on each band, and they go from flat to +8dB, no cut. Seems pretty much vestigial to me. If they were so concerned about keeping a "simple, pure signal path", they should have just left out the EQ and left that job for outboard gear.

OldogNewTrick · #9 02-08-2013, 03:01 AM

The Palmer goes for €699 street, €889mrrp - REDDI for €799 - 899, if you can find one, that is....
Still, I'm not in the market for any of them, my pockets are waaaay smaller....

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

Just looked them up...The Palmer DI is $1250 in the US. REDDI's $745. Palmer's from Germany, if I remember correctly, and well known for high end speaker simulation circuits. I'm no electronics expert, but the Palmer looks like it's just tubes and no output transformer, and it seems pretty lightweight for it to have one. Looks like a high end hybrid circuit rather than full-on tube/transformer like the REDDI. Probably a very nice sounding DI, but a different vibe from the REDDI.

Son of Bovril · #10 02-08-2013, 04:25 AM

Hmm I agree on the eq points, seems a bit silly to me, especially as they mention using it as a preamp but it has no volume/gain control...?

It does however have a balanced mic and line out that can be used together so you could actually get the affected sound to an amp as well as FOH...

bassgod0dmw · #11 02-08-2013, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OldogNewTrick

The Palmer goes for €699 street, €889mrrp - REDDI for €799 - 899, if you can find one, that is....

You're in Germany. Based on the current released pricing the REDDI is significantly less than the Palmer in the US.

Son of Bovril · #12 02-08-2013, 08:46 AM

Yeah for sure I can see the REDDI being cheaper in the US, here in South Africa they are about the same price. I'm gonna try get hold of one of these Palmers to try, I have played with the REDDI and Avalon U5 a fair bit so interested in a comparison

bassgod0dmw · #13 02-08-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Son of Bovril

Yeah for sure I can see the REDDI being cheaper in the US, here in South Africa they are about the same price. I'm gonna try get hold of one of these Palmers to try, I have played with the REDDI and Avalon U5 a fair bit so interested in a comparison

I'd be interested in that comparison too. I've got a REDDI and U5 that I use all the time for different things, mainly recording and practicing.

JimmyM · #14 02-08-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bassgod0dmw

You're in Germany. Based on the current released pricing the REDDI is significantly less than the Palmer in the US.

That would make sense since Palmer is the home team for you

**svtb15** · #15 02-08-2013, 04:13 PM

Does it sound like a REDDI? I think the REDDI has become the new industry standard.. Everyone compares theirs to it... I think i get gigs simply because the engineer love it... I was on a session this week at a studio, the engineer had a Monique,, it was interesting... But we wound up using the REDDI and he just called me today to tell me that he bought a new REDDI... this happens all the time... REDDI Rocks! It has to be all the Iron in it and the simple circuit...

masmasbasso · #16 02-08-2013, 05:07 PM

We have one of these Palmer DIs out on the road with us. We use it for acoustic guitars. I'll try to run my bass through it sometime when I get a chance. I want to try it on my upright but my Summit TD-100 sounds great. I do wish the REDDI was easier to take on the road, but I'm glad it is always at home and ready for sessions.

DJJazzV · #17 02-08-2013, 06:09 PM

Wow! Tubes that glow like the bioluminescence of a black dragon fish, even in bright studio photography lighting.

Just messin' with the photo, that's all. My SVT-DI has a similar artificial tube glow from a small bulb with an orange cap on it.

JimmyM · #18 02-09-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by masmasbasso

We have one of these Palmer DIs out on the road with us. We use it for acoustic guitars. I'll try to run my bass through it sometime when I get a chance. I want to try it on my upright but my Summit TD-100 sounds great. I do wish the REDDI was easier to take on the road, but I'm glad it is always at home and ready for sessions.

I find a way to take the REDDI

I've only not used it once on a fly gig that I thought was going to have cheesy PA, and it turned out to be really nice stuff and I bummed the whole time. Of course, nobody walked out on us because of not having the REDDI, but it just sounds so good that I can't not bring it.

Son of Bovril · #19 02-09-2013, 12:44 AM

I'll try get the REDDI back when I get the Palmer and Make some recordings and see if there is any difference...

**mjac28** · #20 02-09-2013, 12:48 AM

Wow that looks nice put a couple of NOS Mullards or Bugle Boys in there instant butter.