Newbie help!

[Patchbass]

I busk down at my local horse races to earn money for gear but anyway my band is made up of just one guitarist and one !LOUD! drummer and so im going to try and save for a new amp. Do you think an Ashdown CTM 100 through an Ashdown ABM 6x10 will be adequate for most situations? (and btw this might be the silliest question ever, but I like to be sure) Also we don't do massive venues or anything mostly small stuff but i would like an all tube rig! Also at practice using a 300 watt 210 combo can be hard to get loud enough so yeah I don't want to go that small. (sorry for the long paragraph)

[RickenBoogie]

Loud bass means more spkrs. Alot of watts through a 2x10 is limited by the 210. Same wattage through an 8x10 would be much louder.

[Patchbass]

Right thanks! Btw the amp at rehearsal isn't mine and i've only got an ashdown electric blue at home but i need my own amp that can be gigged with without P.A support (and thats all tube ) So the Ashdown CTM 100 and ABM 610 sounds good!

[B-string]

I'm not positive about 100 watts from a pair of 6550's, clean power anyway. But 100 watts and a 610 should do nicely. Better than 210 being fed by 300 watts at any rate.

[Patchbass]

Thanks for the help!

[Downunderwonder]

You'll be investing your life savings in the rig so better be sure. I'm not at all sure you will have enough clean headroom.

If that 300W 2x10 is one of those chintzy Ashdowns of late, it isn't worth a flying fig. I played one with its extension cab, just pitiful volume.

[IPYF]

The Ashdown 610 is a beast. The CTM is by all accounts a brutal head, if you like a bit of tube overdrive in your tone. If you want clean power maybe consider going to an ABM600. I think they're discoed now but I see them everywhere. That would be as loud as a b@stard.

I don't see any issue with this rig. I'd gladly use it.

[Patchbass]

Thanks guys! If I stretched it I could maybe get a Ctm 300 or something similar. Ashdown have got the abm 1000

[Downunderwonder]

CTM300 might be brutal, but I doubt CTM100 is quite the same animal.

[Patchbass]

Thanks! It's just the cost to revalve the Ctm 300 but im open to any other suggestions of amps as well.

[Nephilymbass]

Really all you need is to be able to hear the music the way you want. I used a 810 for a long long time and it was nice for like festivals and stuff where we played on a stage that was 30-40 feet deep. But of your playing small stages say 15 feet front to back a 410 lifted off the ground is my preference.

That said I don't like 6x10 cabs. I've owned an swr 610 and used a friends ampeg 610 and they are just annoying. Most of them only have 2 wheels and are meant to be moved like an 810 but the problem is to me they are to short for that where as an 810 is just right with 2 wheels and 410 cabs with 4 wheels are easy to move and are light enough you can elevate them by stacking then on pretty much anything that won't rattle.

[Patchbass]

Any 410 suggestions as I can't find many I like with wheels and also ones that u can get in my area. Also any other heads I could look preferably tube but open to suggestions!

[IPYF]

I wouldn't recommend the 1000w ABM if you're going the 610. The 610 is only rated for 800w at 4 and while it's totally possible to use a 1000w head with it there's every possibility you could damage the cab, or reduce it's lifespan.

This completely hinges on whether you want a tuber or not. The 600 would have more volume through that 610 than any sane cat would ever need. I dare say the CTM100 would be loud enough but probably not without breaking up. The 300 is in my opinion the number one all round tube head on the market.

[Patchbass]

Originally Posted by IPYF

I wouldn't recommend the 1000w ABM if you're going the 610. The 610 is only rated for 800w at 4 and while it's totally possible to use a 1000w head with it there's every possibility you could damage the cab, or reduce it's lifespan.

This completely hinges on whether you want a tuber or not. The 600 would have more volume through that 610 than any sane cat would ever need. I dare say the CTM100 would be loud enough but probably not without breaking up. The 300 is in my opinion the number one all round tube head on the market.

Cheers I'll see if I can stretch it to the Ctm 300

[Downunderwonder]

The bang for buck factor is in used gear. In England you have heaps of older Ashdown and Trace Elliot 300W amps that are real deal 300W. You could get a cabinet making shop to whiz you up a 2x15 with Faitals or DIY for even less. New bass cabs from mainstream makers are a rort.

[Raymeous]

Will a 6x10 be loud enough, i.e. move enough air? Heck yeah it will, but I think that's not the real issue. It sounds like little drummer boy is just too loud and hasn't learned about this thing called dynamics yet. In my very biased opinion your amp is not the issue here.

[Patchbass]

Thanks i'll have a look around and my drummer can go quiet but in the songs where he needs to be loud the amp really has to be pushed. And the amp may seem quiet because of its age as its quite an old battered up thing and some of it's a bit dodgy. also a 215 was what i wanted but i don't know where to look for one anyone have any ideas?

[Downunderwonder]

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Build one yourself!

[Patchbass]

Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Ebay.uk
Basschat forums classifieds
Gumtree classifieds
Loot
Local music store

Build one yourself!

hehe yeah but I like to be able to try it first and my local shop (which is mint) can't always stock the things i like. And also i wouldn't say i'm a very good builder

[Patchbass]

I could maybe get a barefaced super 15 and just get a cheaper head or maybe a CTM 100/300...