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12-18-2012, 03:23 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Buffalo, Michigan, 49117 | | | NO 12" replacement speakers for bass??? I can't figure out why so many different bass amps have 12" speakers, but only one 12" replacement speaker is available, (Eminence Baselite S2012).
I've already given up and bought a 10" Eminence speaker, because the 12" Basslite is too pricey.
As it's for my old 1980 vintage Peavey TNT 80, just 45 watts.
But again, it's amazing to see that all the top amp manufacturers sell bass amps with 12" speakers, but you'll have to go 10" if you blow the speaker.
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12-18-2012, 03:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East Central Wisconsin | | Here you go. Great price and it will work fine in your PV. There are other good 12" speakers available at MCM. Check out their sale flyers for some better prices. http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/55-2952 | 
12-18-2012, 04:25 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Columbus OH | | | Plenty of other great options, just not as cheap as you like. I replaced a blown 12 with an Eminence 3012HO and its an incredible speaker in small boxes with great Xmax.
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12-18-2012, 04:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | Most of the good neo "bass speakers" are listed under the PA/SR categories. Kapalites, Deltalites, Faital 12PR series, etc. Some of them make as good or better "bass speakers" as ones listed under "bass speakers". | 
12-18-2012, 04:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sorrento, LA USA | | | The Carvin PS12 is a good speaker for the price - I have been using them for years with good results. | 
12-18-2012, 04:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | | For example, many large companies 12" neos are variants of, or at least built on, the Eminence DeltaliteII platform, which you will find in the sound renforcement section, rather than the bass speaker section. | 
12-18-2012, 05:27 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Eminence Beta 12.
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12-18-2012, 05:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Buffalo, Michigan, 49117 | | | I guess I shoulda posted my problem here first… Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Dallman | Wow! Nice price, but will an audio woofer really work in a bass amp?
Seems like instrument amps really move those cones big time, I mean they need to vibrate in and out a much larger distance than an audio cone.
Well, the next guy can do a search, and find this thread for a good 12" replacement speaker.
Thanks.
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12-18-2012, 05:52 PM
|  | Walter Woods or Aguilar to LDS - the best! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NE Ohio | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill ...it's amazing to see that all the top amp manufacturers sell bass amps with 12" speakers, but you'll have to go 10" if you blow the speaker. | What???????????????????????? 
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12-18-2012, 05:55 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill Wow! Nice price, but will an audio woofer really work in a bass amp?
Seems like instrument amps really move those cones big time, I mean they need to vibrate in and out a much larger distance than an audio cone. | No they don't.
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12-18-2012, 06:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill Wow! Nice price, but will an audio woofer really work in a bass amp?
Seems like instrument amps really move those cones big time, I mean they need to vibrate in and out a much larger distance than an audio cone. | MCM is a huge site and has many speakers that suit instrument and sound reinforcement stuff as well as home/car audio.
It helps to know a thing or 2 about specs but a couple of key things to look for is an SPL rating higher than the very low 90's in combination with a cloth surround rather than rubber/foam rubber, etc. That'll at least help eliminate stuff that just plain won't work.
Also look for stuff carrying the "mcm" house brand rather than Pyle, etc. They come with a real datasheet, complete with T/S specs and a 1w/1m response chart.
PartsExpress "Dayton" house brand has some good values as well. | 
12-18-2012, 06:18 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia River Gorge, WA. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill I can't figure out why so many different bass amps have 12" speakers, but only one 12" replacement speaker is available, (Eminence Baselite S2012).
I've already given up and bought a 10" Eminence speaker, because the 12" Basslite is too pricey.
As it's for my old 1980 vintage Peavey TNT 80, just 45 watts. | Sure it's not actually a TKO 80?
What did Peavey tech support tell you when you asked about a replacement? They are usually great about this stuff. There's a huge list of what driver-went-where on their website too. | 
12-18-2012, 06:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Buffalo, Michigan, 49117 | | | Nice selection of 10s and 15s… Peavey USA has a good selection 10" and 15" bass speakers listed for sale, but no 12"s.
I did not email tech support. | 
12-18-2012, 06:59 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Columbia River Gorge, WA. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill Peavey USA has a good selection 10" and 15" bass speakers listed for sale, but no 12"s.
I did not email tech support. | Live and learn then, eh?
Reconing might've been a cost effective option too.
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12-18-2012, 07:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Buffalo, Michigan, 49117 | | | Well, I did OK… I don't think I'd buy a speaker that was not a designed just for bass guitar. A good audio PA woofer…I have doubts about that.
I found a new Eminence for Fender 10" bass speaker for $40 + $7 S&H.
Probably I should have tracked down all the other name brand amp manufacturers first, and checked them for a replacement 12.
Eminence builds their stuff here in the US, I like that.
Japan, Korea, Mexico, Canada and Europe would all be better for me than China, just from a political and trade relations view.
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12-18-2012, 07:27 PM
|  | Walter Woods or Aguilar to LDS - the best! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NE Ohio | | Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffaloBill I don't think I'd buy a speaker that was not a designed just for bass guitar. A good audio PA woofer…I have doubts about that. | I guess all the great advice above was for naught, then. 
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12-18-2012, 08:26 PM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Scott I guess all the great advice above was for naught, then.  | Ya, typical case of not knowing about the subject, wanting to hear a pre-conceived supportive answer to his question, then getting totally dissatisfied when the answers weren't what he expected. Oh well, can't save the world. I'm really interested to hear how he makes out with a 10" mounting it in a hole designed for a 12" 
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12-18-2012, 08:39 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada | | | The OP really should listen to the great advice you guys in the know have given.
and would have been very surprised by the improvement.
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12-18-2012, 08:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, NC USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by braud357 The Carvin PS12 is a good speaker for the price - I have been using them for years with good results. | This. OP, you need to learn to search for more than 45 seconds before you give up. http://www.carvinguitars.com/products/PS12-8
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12-18-2012, 08:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Davenport Iowa | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyM Eminence Beta 12. | Jimmys right about the Beta 12 , very good replacement speaker for bass guitar .
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