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08-01-2010, 06:33 PM
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Hello. What's the most elagant way to implement a tuner out/mute if your amp does not have one? I may grab a mesa walkabout, but dissapointed that there is no tuner out. |
08-01-2010, 06:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Auckland, New Zealand | | | My MarkBass LittleMark II doesn't have a tuner out either, which is the only thing I would change with this head btw.
If you have a tuner like one of the Boss TUs or the Korg PitchBlack (and I'm sure many other brands and models) you can plug your bass into the input jack of the tuner and then with another lead connect the output jack of the tuner to the amp.
When you step on the pedal to activate it to tune, it mutes the output.
When you are done tuning, step on it again...
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08-01-2010, 06:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia | | | Get a tuner pedal (pitchblack is my choice) and run it inbetween bass and amp. Then you don't even have to walk back to amp to mute it, can be done with a flick of the foot where you are standing!
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08-01-2010, 06:50 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Somewhere in AZ | | | I have a Mesa 400+ and use the " effects send " jack on the back of the amp. |
08-01-2010, 09:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD | | Quote:
Originally Posted by twinfallsbass  I have a Mesa 400+ and use the " effects send " jack on the back of the amp. | Only problem I see is you have to run a second line back from the tuner to complete the signal path.
I think I'd use the tuner stomp pedal idea.
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08-01-2010, 09:51 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada | | | Yup, a tuner pedal will do it. I have the Pitchblack's predecessor, the BT-10, and that's how I do it.
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08-01-2010, 09:56 PM
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08-01-2010, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rbonner Only problem I see is you have to run a second line back from the tuner to complete the signal path.
I think I'd use the tuner stomp pedal idea. | Actually you don't. But you won't get a mute with this set up. You need a Tuner/Mute pedal. Lots of good ones out there. |
08-01-2010, 10:03 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | Peterson Strobo Stomp has the mute feature, as well. Or you can use an A/B/Y box and run a dedicated line to the tuner.
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08-02-2010, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx Peterson Strobo Stomp has the mute feature, as well. Or you can use an A/B/Y box and run a dedicated line to the tuner.
Riis | I like your sig! That sums it up pretty well 
To the OP, yes, the 'true bypass' tuners like the PitchBlack and the TurboTuner are great... small, mute footswitch, and great accuracy with no impact on you tone. |
08-02-2010, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wengr Hello. What's the most elagant way to implement a tuner out/mute if your amp does not have one? I may grab a mesa walkabout, but dissapointed that there is no tuner out. | I'd just get an amp that has a tuner out...  |
08-02-2010, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveC Actually you don't. But you won't get a mute with this set up. You need a Tuner/Mute pedal. Lots of good ones out there. | Er, Steve can you explain this to me, its awful early here. You plug in a line into the effects out line and it doesn't break the signal path through the amp?
Thanks, BOB
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08-02-2010, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by cnltb I'd just get an amp that has a tuner out... | I'm guessing you haven't gigged a Walkabout. . . |
08-02-2010, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rbonner Er, Steve can you explain this to me, its awful early here. You plug in a line into the effects out line and it doesn't break the signal path through the amp?
Thanks, BOB | I believe it's because it's the RETURN that switches the loop into the signal path. If you just run the send to a tuner without completing the loop 'circuit', the signal still gets sent to the tuner (so you can tune), but because a line is not sent from the tuner back to the return of the loop, switching the tuner into 'mute' won't break the regular signal flow from the input of the amp/preamp to the power section (past the loop). |
08-02-2010, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by rbonner Er, Steve can you explain this to me, its awful early here. You plug in a line into the effects out line and it doesn't break the signal path through the amp?
Thanks, BOB | On my gear, the effects send acts like an auxiliary line or pre out and does not break the signal path. IIRC, a few components actually require a dummy plug inserted in the effects return to mute the works.
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08-02-2010, 06:35 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC | | | BBE BMax can be used the same way. Use the FX SEND as a tuner out and don't plug anything into the return. |
08-02-2010, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gastric BBE BMax can be used the same way. Use the FX SEND as a tuner out and don't plug anything into the return. | I'm not an expert on effect loops, but I think this might have to do with the nature of the loop. If a loop is series, then I would think plugging something into the effects in and not the return would 'cut' the signal. If parallel, then the 'original' signal should get through. |
08-02-2010, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KJung I'm not an expert on effect loops, but I think this might have to do with the nature of the loop. If a loop is series, then I would think plugging something into the effects in and not the return would 'cut' the signal. If parallel, then the 'original' signal should get through. | usually the 'return' jack cuts the signal -if nothing is inserted into it, then the signal path isn't cut, only that the signal is available at the 'send' output too.
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08-02-2010, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by derrico1 I'm guessing you haven't gigged a Walkabout. . . | You are indeed.
I have.
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