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Old 07-04-2011, 10:48 PM
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observations from a newbie

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first post and its got length and rant

So im a guitar player, obsessed with gear, spend lots of money and the whole bit. Im deep into the addiction im sure alot of u are familiar

Im a Black Keys meets ZZ TOP with a bit of clean honky tonk mixed in, and have been for 18yrs type of player. When it comes to bass, Im looking for that old raw walkin blues tone

so anyways...
recently, I acquired a Fender p-bass 50's reissue, maple fretboard and usa hardware, etc whatever... so I figured it would be good to have around the house, turns out its great to have around the house.

so now Ill need a rig thatll work for at home and for small (but loud) gigs (700 buck range) and i have expensive taste and a nose for deals, time to hit the forums and hard!

These are a few observations Ive made while trying to crack the code that is the bass rig.


1- The world of bass amps is a like a new language compared to guitars.. solid state??..? are you kidding me(?), ive been taught to hate solid state amps, but im over it and accept it fully

2- Ampeg Ampeg Ampeg!! Obviously!! but I dont have the scratch for the 3000 rig nor need the power. And i dont want the mini stack

3- MarkBass gets mentioned an awful lot and rarely anything negative, tho I hate the yellow but arent too concerned, it seems like an obvious choice and almost any model 2 boot! A MarkBas sa-450 is in my local clsfds for 6 hundred and so Ive been doing some research, from what i could gather, its actually a decent deal with a bit of old fashioned negotition

4- Cab design seems to have a much more indepth focus on tuning, they seem more hit or miss when pairing with heads. its over my head, i know the swappin (guitar) cabs game and its never cheap. Horns and tweeters with dials, huh? Thats cool, im cool

5- folks see weight as a bigger concern than I had thought, I realize nobody wants to cart around a 70lbs head nor a 130lbs 8x10.. but people seem to be pushing for ultra light weight, whats the difference between 5lbs or 15lbs for a head- we're talking bass, man!. Dont roast me for this, its not that important.. but focus on the tone, not the weight, again we're talking bass!

6- Peavey is acceptable(), another one thatll take a bit getting used to.
(tho them classic 400's in tweed look ridiculous ((once the peavey badge is removed!))).

8- bass gear isnt as avlble on the used market like guitar stuff. currently the only items worth mentioning around my parts is that markbass head for 650 and a mesa 4x10 cab for 500. Tho I bet thatll make a deadly(heavy) rig

9- knobs knobs and more knobs, some them smaller ss heads look wicked hi fi, but dont have a clue what half of it is or what i'd want to be looking for. The websites dont help much either.

10- it must be good feeling knowing that a 500+ watt amp is an almost an reasonable purchase, who else you know can say that? And the all tube ones, with all there 75 tubes are glowin in harmony, just killer!

i just saying hello

can someone recommend a small head around 250watts. One that looks like it was designed as a star trek prop in the 80's and obviously when matched to a small yet tuff lookin cab has tone for days. Ive seen a few rigs like that and i just love em.

i know my spelling sucks
have a good day and thanks for having me aboard

-heavy

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Old 07-04-2011, 11:07 PM
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We are very similar...guitarist/tube snob with GAS problem seeking to expand my acquisition problem. I went the RBI pre + inexpensive Crown SS amp into Ampeg SVT 410 cab. Very happy with the tone and versatility. I'd love to own an SVT VR, but when I pull the trigger on that, I know I've gone too far. Well, I actually went too far when my bass collection exceeded my guitar collection. Eeekkkkk.
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:09 PM
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Check out the classifieds here, there are some pretty sweet deals waiting to be picked up.

If you want something that is known for being warm sounding, and "tube" like you can check out the Mesa Walkabout, usually go for around 600 used.

If you're in the new market, want something that is light and affordable you can check out the Ampeg PF350/500 maybe even the Ampeg SVT-7 Pro. Offer very vintage type tones and have that sort of 80's pop look to them.

Markbass makes quite good stuff, I'm fond of their Markbass "Tube Bass Amp" head. Bit pricey but if you can find used they are nice with a wide range of tones available.

You might also want to check out an Ampeg SVT-3 Pro, used they go for around 450, and will provide very nice array of tones.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:27 AM
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A Gallien-Krueger MB210 might surprise you as far as tone. It's plenty loud and sounds solid. Oh yeah, it also weighs around 30 lbs! You owe it to yourself to at least check it out.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:19 AM
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Peavey is really that looked down upon in the guitar world? Weird, the two guitarists I primarily play with use Peavey amps almost exclusively.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:26 AM
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Gallien-Krueger is awesome in your price range. Just avoid their cheapest stuff. Or search around for some 80's Peavey gear, their vintage stuff is great but their newer stuff isn't any better than Crate, which suffices for <$500, but has a very sterile tone.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:36 AM
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Welcome to TalkBass.

I like my new TC Electronic RH750. At 8.8 pounds, it's a little heavier than my other amps, but I can handle it. I like it for its versatility. Four bands of semi-parametric EQ, three user memories, Tube Tone and compressor for those who require such things, and plenty of power. Couple that with a Bergantino AE410 and you're set for life. Of course, you're gonna lay out about $2.2K for that, but buy once and cry once.

OK, getting real in the Whole Foods parking lot, I just saw an SWR Silverado Special 212 combo for $495 on my local CL. That would be a good rig. Keep your eyes on the ads in Amps; some good deals pop up regularly.

And forget Ampeg.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:50 AM
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Check the Team Trace Elliot thread for some Space1999 style. Wicked tones too.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:41 AM
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The Mesa 410 would likely be heavy, but they're very well-built and some of the best sounding cabs out there. Ampeg PF series amps shouldn't be dismissed just yet.

Available in a lower price bracket, SWR makes some nice 410 cabs if you don't want to go all out on an 810, Peavey TVX cabs come up quite cheap too.

If you haven't heard yet, Traynor is a GREAT company that makes reliable gear at reasonable prices, and made in Canada too! In the same price bracket, I'd take Traynor over Peaveys. Of course, this is my opinion, YMMV.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:58 AM
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Hartke LH500/1000 and AK410 cab is in your budget range. Loads of power, tone and has a valve front end. Not too big or heavy either.

Sure you'll get them cheaper but link here:

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Old 07-05-2011, 05:25 PM
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+1 on the battles also maybe look into some of tv electronics more competitively priced gear. Very versatile, to graveyard and bang for your buck I'm sure......stay away from beringher.
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....I meant hartkes not battles dam you autocorrect. Gotta love smart phones.
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