The Official Hartke Club Part 2

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[quote=SGD Lutherie;The Hartke 4X10 sounds great!
The XL has a brighter crunchier tone, and still has a huge low end. And it's loud. The Mesa is smoother/darker and more vintage sounding. The new band is a grunge band, so I wanted a grindier tone, and the XL can do that well. But it's very versatile.

I have played the XLs in the past with a GK-800RB and always liked them.]




Thanks for your thoughts on this cab, David!

[Ed_in_NE_Ohio]

First bass rig: 1984 Peavey Fury through a Kickback 12
Sounds fantastic in the mix for our band!
Guess I'm officially a Hartke Man.

[jasongil1]

Originally Posted by sgtpepper

We will need a picture of that one, buddy.

There you go.

[tjh]

Originally Posted by GrandLowBass

Number please!

Here's my 210xl. I use this for practice and small gigs but add my other, ported 210xl when I need a bit more oomph. Light, inexpensive, and great tone! Love it!

...Ported 210XL?? ... did you port it or are you talking a 2.5XL?

[sgtpepper]

Originally Posted by jasongil1

There you go.

Congratulations!!! You're member #325

Welcome to the Hartke Club.

[dalkowski]

Originally Posted by GrandLowBass

Number please!

Here's my 210xl. I use this for practice and small gigs but add my other, ported 210xl when I need a bit more oomph. Light, inexpensive, and great tone! Love it!

My local mom & pop has a new 210XL marked down after several years (!) on the floor. Seriously considering picking it up and pairing it with a Carvin BX250.

[sgtpepper]

Originally Posted by Ed_in_NE_Ohio

First bass rig: 1984 Peavey Fury through a Kickback 12
Sounds fantastic in the mix for our band!
Guess I'm officially a Hartke Man.

Need a number, buddy?

[Ed_in_NE_Ohio]

Sure!

[sgtpepper]

Originally Posted by Ed_in_NE_Ohio

First bass rig: 1984 Peavey Fury through a Kickback 12
Sounds fantastic in the mix for our band!
Guess I'm officially a Hartke Man.

Originally Posted by Ed_in_NE_Ohio

Sure!

Congratulations!!! You're member #326

Welcome to the Hartke Club.

There you go!

[Ed_in_NE_Ohio]

Thanks!

[Count Bassie]

Wow... do I get big red letters too? Here's mine, and I have a question about it to follow:



Question: Is there any conventional wisdom concerning putting a mid-driver where the tweeter horn is on this VX-215? The tweeter is blown, and there lies its corpse in black under the grille. But I wonder about a replacement, maybe something of better quality than what was there (these always seem to blow)? What about an 18 Sound or similar, with a modded or rebuilt crossover?

Thoughts?

[autodidact]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Wow... do I get big red letters too? Here's mine, and I have a question about it to follow:

Question: Is there any conventional wisdom concerning putting a mid-driver where the tweeter horn is on this VX-215? The tweeter is blown, and there lies its corpse in black under the grille. But I wonder about a replacement, maybe something of better quality than what was there (these always seem to blow)? What about an 18 Sound or similar, with a modded or rebuilt crossover?

Thoughts?

That's actually not a terrible idea IMO. I know a lot of TBers would be all "What?!?! That cab isn't tuned for a mid range driver! fEARful fEARful fEARful yadda yadda blah." But I think that as long as you can get the crossover to work properly it would be a pretty cool cab. You'd still get all the 215 thunder but with a little extra upper mid while avoiding those obnoxious snappy highs

I say go for it. GO! GO NOW!

[sgtpepper]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Wow... do I get big red letters too? Here's mine, and I have a question about it to follow:



Question: Is there any conventional wisdom concerning putting a mid-driver where the tweeter horn is on this VX-215? The tweeter is blown, and there lies its corpse in black under the grille. But I wonder about a replacement, maybe something of better quality than what was there (these always seem to blow)? What about an 18 Sound or similar, with a modded or rebuilt crossover?

Thoughts?

Of course you get big red letters too!

Congratulations!!! You're member #327

Welcome to the Hartke Club.

[BillyB_from_LZ]

Originally Posted by autodidact

That's actually not a terrible idea IMO. ... But I think that as long as you can get the crossover to work properly it would be a pretty cool cab. You'd still get all the 215 thunder but with a little extra upper mid while avoiding those obnoxious snappy highs

I say go for it. GO! GO NOW!

I concur! Of course we'll need photos and a play by play description of the upgrade!

[Count Bassie]

Originally Posted by autodidact

That's actually not a terrible idea IMO. I know a lot of TBers would be all "What?!?! That cab isn't tuned for a mid range driver! fEARful fEARful fEARful yadda yadda blah." But I think that as long as you can get the crossover to work properly it would be a pretty cool cab. You'd still get all the 215 thunder but with a little extra upper mid while avoiding those obnoxious snappy highs

I say go for it. GO! GO NOW!

OKAY!

Originally Posted by sgtpepper

Of course you get big red letters too!

Congratulations!!! You're member #327

Welcome to the Hartke Club.

Excellent!

Originally Posted by BillyB_from_LZ

I concur! Of course we'll need photos and a play by play description of the upgrade!

I will commence as soon as I get a driver, and will take photos. I may be having to do a little homework on crossovers, as I think the one in there now will probably not do- it'll need to be a lower x-over point...

[BillyB_from_LZ]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

...

I will commence as soon as I get a driver, and will take photos. I may be having to do a little homework on crossovers, as I think the one in there now will probably not do- it'll need to be a lower x-over point...

Very, very true! Probably plenty of crossover info in the fEARful threads and scattered throughout the Amps forum on TalkBass.

[Count Bassie]

Originally Posted by BillyB_from_LZ

Very, very true! Probably plenty of crossover info in the fEARful threads and scattered throughout the Amps forum on TalkBass.

Those are the places I'll be found over the next couple weeks or so... I hope to have it together by New Year's- got a gig!

Thanks for the pointing of the way.

[autodidact]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

Those are the places I'll be found over the next couple weeks or so... I hope to have it together by New Year's- got a gig!

Thanks for the pointing of the way.

Just a friendly heads up. They get a little hostile in the fEARful threads, don't get discouraged if you get a less than friendly initial response, someone who's not a snob will eventually come along haha

[60bass]

Count Bassie

Go here for the fearful x-over info

http://greenboy.us/fEARful/crossovers.htm

[SGD Lutherie]

Originally Posted by Count Bassie

I may be having to do a little homework on crossovers, as I think the one in there now will probably not do- it'll need to be a lower x-over point...

You want to find out what the lower crossover point is for your midrange driver. Since you are adding a midrange to 2 15's, I wouldn't worry about them. It's not like you are setting up a three way system. So you can tack on a midrange driver without removing that band from the 15s. The 15s are probably lacking in that type of midrange anyway.

It's not the text book way of doing it, but I think you will find it works fine. I've done it with cabs that were lacking in mids, like folded horn enclosures.

So just find a x-over frequency where the mid driver sounds good with the 15s.