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11-11-2010, 01:49 AM
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So I am considering constructing my own bass 4x10 cabinet. Will this be cost effective, will I able to achieve a good sound?
I would love to hear general comments about doing this, I have access to all the necessary tools so that is not an issue.
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11-11-2010, 05:54 AM
| | | | I would also like to do this. Sorry, a pointless post. | 
11-11-2010, 06:01 AM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | The current fashion these days in bass speakers is to declare that 4x10 cabs are an unproper design and shouldn't be used anyway. It may change next week though so don't sweat it.
If you have decent tools, a bit of patience and do your homework right, it is not very difficult to make a decent cab. | 
11-11-2010, 06:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany | | | I don't think it would be cost effective. There are many offerings in the market that can be purchased for much less than it would cost to build one cab.
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11-11-2010, 06:11 AM
|  | I'll take you into the water. | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane QLD Australia | | | Prepare yourself for an onslaught of people telling you its a terrible idea.
I've played on a DIY version of an Eden 410XLT it sounded just as good as the real deal if not a little better. | 
11-11-2010, 06:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland | | I doubt it will be cost effective but it could be a fun build, sound quality is completelly down to the design of the cabinet and the speakers used.
If you want to try building a cab, also have a look at these: http://www.talkbass.com/wiki/index.p...877&oldid=1870 http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/
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11-11-2010, 06:13 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing Artist for: Brace Audio; Duncan Pickups; Line6 | | Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida | | | Well if you have enough money, ALOT of patience and do your homework on total layout. I would say have fun and good luck. You may want to research what shape, type of speakers and speaker layout that can get you the best range of frequencies and tones, it may not be the 4-10, it may be a 2-15 or a 1-15" + 1-10" +1-6" + horn. (just an example)
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11-11-2010, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by max8899 Will this be cost effective. | No. You can't build one for what you can buy one for. DIY cabs are only cost effective when you intend to build a labor intensive hi-tech design that you can't get commercially for less than you can build one for. | 
11-11-2010, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazz Ad The current fashion these days in bass speakers is to declare that 4x10 cabs are an unproper design and shouldn't be used anyway. It may change next week though so don't sweat it. | I think you've missed the point in the discussions of standard 410 cabinets and line array 410 cabinets.
What I've gleaned from what has been said is the standard design is good, just that "if" you go vertical you can achieve a few advantages over the standard 410.
Fashion??? I'd say the proof is in the science and facts.
I'm sure your right...don't sweat it, cause I'm sure there's someone that already has a 410 design that will out perform the standard 410 configuration and the vertical. | 
11-11-2010, 08:49 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Santa Cruz | | | If you've never designed or built a cab before, I would suggest you try one of the proven designs (Bill Fitzmaurice Jack, Greenboy's fEARful) first, learn from the process, and decide what your goal is in changing the build. You will need to study cabinet design and how to model cabs with something like WinISD.
If it must be a 410, there are numerous plans on the web to be downloaded, especially from driver manufacturers such as EV, Beyma, Faital, etc. Try a known design first.
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11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
|  | Registered User Maker of HPF-Pre upright bass preamp | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Madison WI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazz Ad The current fashion these days in bass speakers is to declare that 4x10 cabs are an unproper design and shouldn't be used anyway. It may change next week though so don't sweat it.
If you have decent tools, a bit of patience and do your homework right, it is not very difficult to make a decent cab. | Actually, the current fashion these days is to avoid discussing technical or scientific matters in the Amps forum.  | 
11-11-2010, 09:59 AM
| | | | DO IT. although I doubt "cost-effective", it will at the very least be fun, and if you plan it out and do it right, it'll probably turn out great. Just be sure to use PLYWOOD and not particle board/MDF, preferable hardwood or Birch plywood (void free if you really wanna splurge). Plywood is lighter, stronger, and more resistant to wear and tear/moisture than MDF/particle board. Apparently it produces "better tone", I don't know this for a fact, but I think the lightness as well as durability is excuse enough for the extra cost. | 
11-11-2010, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fdeck Actually, the current fashion these days is to avoid discussing technical or scientific matters in the Amps forum.  | Actually, the current fashion is not actually play the amps people discuss in the Amps forum.  Much less have these amps and cabs actually hitting the mixing board with your FOH signal. So you're really just wasting your time on discussing technical and scientific matters about monitors. WTG. | 
11-11-2010, 11:08 AM
| | | | I built a 6x12 with some friends. Lots of fun, but not very cost effective. And it was a good deal of work. Honestly doing your homework is the best advice I can give you. Good luck man!
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