Opinions on Ebay ethics

Zootsuitbass · #1 08-18-2012, 09:03 PM

Huh... Wrong topic and I cant erase the thread???

This item is a amp that's why I was thinking amps..

Mods move to appropriate?

I recently won a auction on Ebay. I got a good price, one might say a very good price but not quite stole the thing.
Now this item is for sale here on TB.Has been for a while the asking price as of late was 1400 shipped/best offer.The item was bumped up activity before the ebay add started.

Seller has set forth the "cancel" sale due to "Sold to another buyer"

I've sent Ebay message looking for direct conversation. PM here,,, and email direct through that option here. No Reply......

Low Class · #2 08-18-2012, 09:10 PM

I sell on eBay quite a bit as well on various classified boards. As far as I'm concerned Ebay trumps any other deals. It is a legal binding contract. If you won the auction the item should be yours, period!! Tell the seller no go on the cancel transaction request and demand your item, leave negative feedback if need be. If he is a TB'er you might try alerting the moderators of your situation, they might help.

btw, this probably the wrong forum for this topic.

B-string · #3 08-18-2012, 09:38 PM

If the auction ran its course, it was too late for the seller to cancel. You must do that before the auction ending period.

SamTheButcher · #4 08-18-2012, 10:01 PM

This is the auction you won I presume, the Aguilar DB728?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aguilar-DB72...item3a7875582d

The last bump by the seller was on 8/10, with no responses, so one might guess that it wasn't sold on here.
Auction ended on the 17th.

I believe the above posters are correct; the only time as a seller you can end an eBay auction early is before the auction is over. If it runs it's course, it should be a binding contract. Thats what the "reserve price" option is for. If a seller sets a reserve, and the item goes for less than that reserve amount, the seller doesnt have to release the item.
I see no reserve on this item, so you should be in the right.

Zootsuitbass · #5 08-19-2012, 12:21 AM

So,I received this from Tminus10

" And you know that it was for sale locally. Someone came and bought it the day the auction was ending, I couldn't end it that close to the auction closing. I understand you're upset that you won't be getting a $1500 amp for $1000. Get over it."

Anybody read in the auction that it was for sale locally?? Must be in the fine print.

I was trying to play nice out here.... It's getting hard to do.

Actually if he had called me like i asked him to do and just said... "Crap, I thought I'd get more.Please, I don't want to let it go for that." I would have let it go.

Sartori · #6 08-19-2012, 12:33 AM

As far as I know, if an auction ends, it is legally binding. Report this crap.

sadasar · #7 08-19-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zootsuitbass

So,I received this from Tminus10

" And you know that it was for sale locally. Someone came and bought it the day the auction was ending, I couldn't end it that close to the auction closing. I understand you're upset that you won't be getting a $1500 amp for $1000. Get over it."

Anybody read in the auction that it was for sale locally?? Must be in the fine print.

I was trying to play nice out here.... It's getting hard to do.

Actually if he had called me like i asked him to do and just said... "Crap, I thought I'd get more.Please, I don't want to let it go for that." I would have let it go.

Could have done without the get over it part. Things happen when you post your for sale items all over the place at different prices which is understandable ( I guess) but there is no need for rudeness. I'd still leave negative feedback but that's just me.

sadasar · #8 08-19-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sartori

As far as I know, if an auction ends, it is legally binding. Report this crap.

+ infinity billion

bongomania · #9 08-19-2012, 12:43 AM

He deserves negative feedback and to be reported to Ebay for violating their rules. Then he can "get over it".

sadasar · #10 08-19-2012, 12:47 AM

That's why I generally use eBay after I've exhausted all tb and local options because it's BINDING.

sadasar · #11 08-19-2012, 12:50 AM

Funny part I just thought of is wont eBay want their percentage or the total amount sold including any shipping well since you're obviously not paying that amount won't he still owe all the listing and final sale price fees.

Munjibunga · #12 08-19-2012, 01:01 AM

That ain't gonna help tminus10's rep here.

Zootsuitbass · #13 08-19-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sadasar

Funny part I just thought of is wont eBay want their percentage or the total amount sold including any shipping well since you're obviously not paying that amount won't he still owe all the listing and final sale price fees.

I'm not sure,He initiated a termination of the sale . I "cancelled" that ,, I have no idea what stance ebay is going to take.

Zootsuitbass · #14 08-19-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Munjibunga

That ain't gonna help tminus10's rep here.

I confess that before his response that I posted I felt compelled to protect his rep and keep this kinda anonymous. In-fact I had asked samthebutcher to pull that link of the ebay auction.

Now I'm letting this thread bloom....

BTW, I also just checked craiglist local seattle looking for a sale add and didn't find one.

Low Class · #15 08-19-2012, 04:33 AM

I say report it to eBay and leave him negative feedback and let him get over it. If you don't cancel the transaction he'll still have to pay the eBay fees on the item. That'll give him something else to get over. Beyond that it's time to move on cause you're not getting the amp.

Downunderwonder · #16 08-19-2012, 04:51 AM

Ebay not letting you pull an auction any time you like is unethical on their part. What goes on after that doesn't rate on the seller's character if you ask me.

The guy is in the TB brotherhood, you should be happy he got a decent price for it.

Low Class · #17 08-19-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Ebay not letting you pull an auction any time you like is unethical on their part. What goes on after that doesn't rate on the seller's character if you ask me.

The guy is in the TB brotherhood, you should be happy he got a decent price for it.

TB'er or not, the seller agreed to abide by eBay rules when he listed his item. I see nothing unethical about what eBay has done.

Mr. Foxen · #18 08-19-2012, 05:54 AM

If he has sold you an item, its up to him to deliver, if he sold it to someone else also, his problem, he'll have to get another one to supply you. Or he's selling non-existent items, which is fraud. Your sale is all down on paper. First case here is sort of relevant, but is UK law: http://www.e-sue.co.uk/recent_work.htm#

Jack · #19 08-19-2012, 06:15 AM

As far as I can see you're legally entitled to your amp.

On the other hand do you really expect him to deliver one at this point? Stick him with the fees and some bad feedback and move on. Had you lost money this would have been a much bigger deal, as it is it's not so bad. If it really bothers you make a complaint to ebay, open a 'where is my item' dispute.

sadasar · #20 08-19-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Ebay not letting you pull an auction any time you like is unethical on their part. What goes on after that doesn't rate on the seller's character if you ask me.

The guy is in the TB brotherhood, you should be happy he got a decent price for it.

No I'm sorry if you sell it local for a better price thats not something I'm excited about when I already purchased it from you. If he wanted more money for it then he shouldn't have listed it on eBay for a price he wasn't willing to part with

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Originally Posted by Jack

As far as I can see you're legally entitled to your amp.

On the other hand do you really expect him to deliver one at this point? Stick him with the fees and some bad feedback and move on. Had you lost money this would have been a much bigger deal, as it is it's not so bad.

yea at this point the last laugh is a noble quest.