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06-29-2011, 04:34 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada | | | Opinions on Mesa Powerhouse 410
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I might have a local trade in the works. My Avatar 212 for this guys Mesa Powerhouse 410. I've never played through a Mesa cab, I'm not sure what to expect.
What do these cabs sound like? I hear they're very middy. |
06-29-2011, 09:15 PM
| | | | I have a PH410 and I prefer its tone to many other 410 cabs. Its a 100 pound monster to lift but it sounds extremely good. Not overly middy at all. Punchy, loud and well balanced. Not overly hyped in any frequency like so many other 410 cabs.
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06-29-2011, 10:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | I agree that the PH410 isn't overly middy at all - I'd say your proposed trade is a no-brainer, as long as the Mesa cab is fully functional...
That being said, although I'm a big Mesa fan, there are other 410s I prefer - Ampeg's SVT-410HLF, and Eden's 410XLT come to mind... The main gripe I have with the PH410 is how low to the ground it is - it beams at my knees... There are ways to combat that problem, and it is a quality cab - that's definitely better and worth more than an Avatar 212...
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06-29-2011, 10:13 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montreal | | | I found the PH to be quite agressive. Very good for rock, maybe not so much for when you need a warm round low bass sound. Its a monster, but its a thank. You will never kill this cab. Construction is above anything I have ever seen.
As for the trade : ABSOLUTELY
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06-29-2011, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by georgestrings I agree that the PH410 isn't overly middy at all - I'd say your proposed trade is a no-brainer, as long as the Mesa cab is fully functional...
That being said, although I'm a big Mesa fan, there are other 410s I prefer - Ampeg's SVT-410HLF, and Eden's 410XLT come to mind... The main gripe I have with the PH410 is how low to the ground it is - it beams at my knees... There are ways to combat that problem, and it is a quality cab - that's definitely better and worth more than an Avatar 212...
- georgestrings | Thanks for the opinions guys! I've decided that I'd really like to get the Mesa, I'm just hoping the guy doesn't back out for some reason. As much as I love the avatar, I just wanna try something different.
And Mesa was going to be the way I went for my next cab purchase anyway. My guitarist uses an oversized Mesa 412, and the build quality amazes me. I'm not too worried about it being too low to the ground, I'm not gigging at the moment, but do plan to get an identical 8 ohm PH410 in the future.
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06-30-2011, 05:02 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: dfw | | | I agree with the others here.If it's a straight trade you are trading up!I didn't find the Mesa 410 middy- but it is an "in your face" cab.To me when I'd tame it down it lost it's personality.
My only complaint is the weight-It is a beast. |
06-30-2011, 01:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Charleroi, Belgium | | | My PH410 is the greatest cab I've ever played.
Loud, punchy, clear, it colours the sound nicely, not too hifi.
Clearly above everything I've played before.
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06-30-2011, 03:36 PM
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Hi-fi into an old tube amp | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: SW | | | This is my favorite cab. The comments above are all accurate.
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06-30-2011, 04:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Winnipeg Manitoba, Canada | | | Does Mesa offer replacement grills? This one comes with the silver grill, but I really like the look of the vintage powerhouse cabs. Maybe another user would like to do a grill swap should this deal go through? Anyone using two of these? I'd love to see some pictures. |
07-01-2011, 01:04 AM
| | | | The silver grill era is my favorite as they usually came with the thicker "Rhino" tolex. The newer "Bronco" tolex is much thinner and gets scuffed up so easily. You may come to really like the silver grill.
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07-01-2011, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Crabby The silver grill era is my favorite as they usually came with the thicker "Rhino" tolex. The newer "Bronco" tolex is much thinner and gets scuffed up so easily. You may come to really like the silver grill. | Is there a way for me to know for sure if this cab comes with the Rhino tolex? Did all silver grill cabs have it? And don't get me wrong, I like the silver grill, I'd just like it to match my guitarists cab. |
07-01-2011, 08:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Charleroi, Belgium | | | CACA the Kick painted his silver grill in black and it looks nice.
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07-02-2011, 06:56 AM
| | | I owned a couple of the PH410 cabs through the years. Not bad cabs.
I use to run a Bass 400 or + on top of the PH410 on top of the PH2X15. I could kill and mame.
Only thing is those are heavy. Me no likey heavy anymore but I'm old and fat. 
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