Orange Bass Terror VS Ampeg Micro VR

Noseferatu · #1 07-11-2010, 11:02 AM

How does the Bass Terror sound?? And how does it compare to say, the Ampeg Micro VR?

And also, how closely does the Micro VR come to mimicking the actual VR?

rhopper · #2 07-11-2010, 11:07 AM

To me, the Orange Terror Bass sounds awesome for rock. I have not used the Ampeg Micro VR, but the TB has ALOT more volume... this thing cranks.

RFord04 · #3 07-11-2010, 11:12 AM

How do you know the Orange is A LOT louder if you haven't used the VR?

Noseferatu · #4 07-11-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rhopper

To me, the Orange Terror Bass sounds awesome for rock. I have not used the Ampeg Micro VR, but the TB has ALOT more volume... this thing cranks.

I'm leaning more toward the Terror bass BECAUSE I play rock, but I was just wanting to get some more input because I heard the Ampeg was relatively loud, but I would assume the Bass Terror would be much louder.

Question, though. If I pair the Terror bass with say, an Avatar 4x12, would I put the switch on 4ohms or 8ohms?? I'm just wondering because I'm new to ohm matching.

rhopper · #5 07-11-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RFord04

How do you know the Orange is A LOT louder if you haven't used the VR?

I stand corrected, you may be right, I just assume based on the fact that this thing is louder than Ampeg B2R which is quite a bit bigger than the VR Micro...

rhopper · #6 07-11-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Noseferatu

Question, though. If I pair the Terror bass with say, an Avatar 4x12, would I put the switch on 4ohms or 8ohms?? I'm just wondering because I'm new to ohm matching.

That is the nice thing about the TB, just look at the back of your cab and place the switch accordingly if running a single cab.

Noseferatu · #7 07-11-2010, 11:28 AM

So 8ohms?

NineSpine · #8 07-11-2010, 11:30 AM

the 412 could be 8 or 4 ohms. It depends which one you ordered.

Noseferatu · #9 07-11-2010, 11:40 AM

Oh ok I get it. Operating at the full 8 ohms would give me the full power of my bass though, correct?

**jmattbassplaya** · #10 07-11-2010, 11:41 AM

Haven't played the Terror but I thought the Micro VR was really cool for what it was. I wouldn't necessarily gig it outside of acoustic gigs or without PA support, but it definitely gets a nice, warm, and bassy Ampeg tone. The CV jazz I played through it also sounded really nice and had a lot of snap when I tried slapping. I would definitely pick one up if I could find one for cheap.

**jmattbassplaya** · #11 07-11-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Noseferatu

Oh ok I get it. Operating at the full 8 ohms would give me the full power of my bass though, correct?

It's not your basses power it's your heads. Most bass heads operate down to 4ohms (which typically is the max a head can be run at), but some can go down to 2ohm loads.

I believe the Micro VR can operate at a 4ohm load max (ie. you could run two cabs running at 8ohms, or one cab running at 4ohms), but I'd have to look it up.

Noseferatu · #12 07-11-2010, 11:44 AM

By the way, I meant that I want to get an Avatar 410, not 412, my mistake! I was just talking to someone else on another forum about ordering a 412 guitar cab for my guitar along with the 410 for my bass.

Noseferatu · #13 07-11-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

It's not your basses power it's your heads. Most bass heads operate down to 4ohms (which typically is the max a head can be run at), but some can go down to 2ohm loads.

I believe the Micro VR can operate at a 4ohm load max (ie. you could run two cabs running at 8ohms, or one cab running at 4ohms), but I'd have to look it up.

I meant to say head lol. Sorry, I'm typing on my iPhone and the text is zoomed in huge and I typed bass for some reason. But I do understand that if you operate the head at half the ohms, then the power will also be cut by half, which is what I was meaning when I said that I would get the full power of my head by using 8ohms.

RickenBoogie · #14 07-11-2010, 11:53 AM

You get full power from the amp by running it at it's minimum ohm rating, ie: if it's a 4 ohm head, you get max power from a 4 ohm load.

**jmattbassplaya** · #15 07-11-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Noseferatu

I meant to say head lol. Sorry, I'm typing on my iPhone and the text is zoomed in huge and I typed bass for some reason. But I do understand that if you operate the head at half the ohms, then the power will also be cut by half, which is what I was meaning when I said that I would get the full power of my head by using 8ohms.

Haha, no worries.

I don't think you quite understand what ohms are. To keep it really simple, ohms are a measure of resistance. The larger the number the more resistance you have and the less amount of power you're actually running through your amp. So an 8ohm load is actually running less power than a 4ohm load (or in layman speak, 4ohms is more powerful than 8ohms and 2ohms is more powerful than 4ohms).

Noseferatu · #16 07-11-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jmattbassplaya

Haha, no worries.

I don't think you quite understand what ohms are. To keep it really simple, ohms are a measure of resistance. The larger the number the more resistance you have and the less amount of power you're actually running through your amp. So an 8ohm load is actually running less power than a 4ohm load (or in layman speak, 4ohms is more powerful than 8ohms and 2ohms is more powerful than 4ohms).

Ooooooohhhhhhh, ok, now it makes sense.

JimmyM · #17 07-11-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rhopper

I stand corrected, you may be right, I just assume based on the fact that this thing is louder than Ampeg B2R which is quite a bit bigger than the VR Micro...

the shuttle 12.0 is 3x smaller than the micro vr and has a lot more power. you're judging by looks, not specs.

rhopper · #18 07-11-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

the shuttle 12.0 is 3x smaller than the micro vr and has a lot more power. you're judging by looks, not specs.

I never mentioned anything about the Shuttle 12.0... I was talking about the Orange Terror Bass.

coreyfyfe · #19 07-11-2010, 06:57 PM

I'd bet bottom dollar that the TB would give you more volume considering it's rated for 500 watts (they don't say, but that's probably at 4 ohms) versus the 200 watt rating of the VR. That said, for being a solid-state head, and weighing all of what 5 or 6 lbs, the VR gets a pretty decent tone. Nothing like a real tube amp, but not too bad. Haven't played one, but from the videos I've heard of it (thank you Tom Bowlus

) the terror bass can get pretty close to the AD200 sound (considering they have the same tube pre-amp that's not a surprise) .

rhopper · #20 07-11-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coreyfyfe

I'd bet bottom dollar that the TB would give you more volume considering it's rated for 500 watts (they don't say, but that's probably at 4 ohms) versus the 200 watt rating of the VR.

The cool thing about the TB head is that there is a switch on back that will allow you to use the full 500 watts in either 4 or 8 ohms. Killer having full power (500 watts) into an 8 ohm cab.