Orange Computer + Amp

[joshmickelson]

http://www.orangeamps.com/features.asp?ID=163




This is just so odd! I am not sure what to think. Thoughts? (sorry if there has already been a thread, I did a quick search and didn't come up with anything.)

[melodicly]

I don't really know what I think about that either! What happens when Windows 7 crashes mid gig or something?

[Bassmec]

After 56 years of witnessing occasional lame and I thought I had a handle on what it is.
But this opens up a whole new virgin undiscovered territory
of lameness.

[Baird6869]

Wow.

I have worked for high tech manufacturers (PCs, storage, telecom, etc.) for 15+ years and this is likely the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

Unless it is dirt cheap (which it won't be as Dell, HP and the others have amazing buying power and Orange doesn't), I really don't know why they would think this is a viable product that there is a market for.

I can do most of what this thing does with my PC, a good pair of speakers and maybe a card to allow me to connect instruments, mics, etc.

Crazy.

[RickenBoogie]

Well, it looks cool, but the very concept is baffling. Why?

[Morning Beer]

Uhhhh................

[megadan]

Wow! Almost like a fancy case mod. Except it's actually still an amp too!

Weird, weird, weird is all I can say.

[timbledum]

I guess the bass version would be a mac mini gaffered to a GK MB115. Or perhaps a rackmount linux server or something in with the power amp and pre (and of course tuner) on top of a fearful.

[seamonkey]

Modeling. It's all about modeling.
It's not tied to a dsp - using a computer they can use plugins. Many quality plugins are available but people want an easy an rugged way to carry them around.
The keyboard world has Muse Receptor, and V-machine, and more options soon.
Time for something for guitarist.

Wireless is OK - if you can trust the sound engineer out front to control you're settings, they can do so remotely.

Cool to see Orange - an old world company join in on the modeling revolution - the built in PC makes much more sense than a single purpose DSP. This could be the missing link between old and new world.

[megadan]

Originally Posted by seamonkey

Modeling. It's all about modeling.
It's not tied to a dsp - using a computer they can use plugins. Many quality plugins are available but people want an easy an rugged way to carry them around.
The keyboard world has Muse Receptor, and V-machine, and more options soon.
Time for something for guitarist.

Wireless is OK - if you can trust the sound engineer out front to control you're settings, they can do so remotely.

Cool to see Orange - an old world company join in on the modeling revolution - the built in PC makes much more sense than a single purpose DSP. This could be the missing link between old and new world.

I see your point.

Think of all the guys with an amp and a macbook on stage right now.

[Calaverasgrande]

the thing about DS vs Mac/Pc is that DSP is very fast and doesnt need and OS or it can run hosted. Playing a guitar plugged into AD pc modeling and then DA means more latency. You cant get rid of the AD/DA so I would much prefer a dsp based modeling.

This has to be an april fools joke. Outside of the handful of guitarists that would buy it as a gimick who would want this?
Most of the laptop musicians are keyboardists or DJ's not guitarists or bassists.

[D.M.N.]

I'm so confused.



But, this isn't exactly the first time Orange has branched out into something rather odd.
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_i...ews/orange.gif

Can't find a bigger picture ATM.

[NecroticImbecil]

This is great. Tube amps are worhtless now that modelling has not only duplicated but excelled their performance. Big SS amps are on the way out too, with everybody buying lightweights that fit in the gig bag. This is the next step, and will only get better as the physical components get smaller. Don't feel bad that your amp is an anachronistic museum piece; time marches on, and change is for the better. Before you know it, bass players will be obsolete too, so make the most of you gigs while you can:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwza2lhWtM

[chicago_mike]

I kinda like this...

[BassmanPaul]

Originally Posted by melodicly

I don't really know what I think about that either! What happens when Windows 7 crashes mid gig or something?

And, being windows, we all know it will!!!

Paul

[chadds]

Originally Posted by NecroticImbecil

This is great. Tube amps are worhtless now that modelling has not only duplicated but excelled their performance. Big SS amps are on the way out too, with everybody buying lightweights that fit in the gig bag. This is the next step, and will only get better as the physical components get smaller. Don't feel bad that your amp is an anachronistic museum piece; time marches on, and change is for the better. Before you know it, bass players will be obsolete too, so make the most of you gigs while you can:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwza2lhWtM

I have officially quit playing bass. After watching that robot shread like Billy Sheehan, I quit. I can never play that well so my stuff is for sale!

[Jammin_Bass]

Don't let Apple see this.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by NecroticImbecil

This is great. Tube amps are worhtless now that modelling has not only duplicated but excelled their performance. Big SS amps are on the way out too, with everybody buying lightweights that fit in the gig bag. This is the next step, and will only get better as the physical components get smaller. Don't feel bad that your amp is an anachronistic museum piece; time marches on, and change is for the better. Before you know it, bass players will be obsolete too, so make the most of you gigs while you can:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pwza2lhWtM

funny post!

[One Drop]

Originally Posted by Jammin_Bass

Don't let Apple see this.

They won't mind, it's not a directly comparable product-

apples to oranges, y'know?

[seamonkey]

Originally Posted by Calaverasgrande

the thing about DS vs Mac/Pc is that DSP is very fast and doesnt need and OS or it can run hosted. Playing a guitar plugged into AD pc modeling and then DA means more latency. You cant get rid of the AD/DA so I would much prefer a dsp based modeling.

This has to be an april fools joke. Outside of the handful of guitarists that would buy it as a gimick who would want this?
Most of the laptop musicians are keyboardists or DJ's not guitarists or bassists.

DSP is great for small single purpose things like hearing aids.

For multieffect high end rack reverbs or similar that use DSP usually do include an OS. I know I have one and have updated the OS.

I do expect DSP will be displaced in the next few years by CPU+OS. Volume and flexibility is key here. CPU has the performance to pull this off now for a few years with no problem.

All your computer peripherals - printers, RAID, routers, ... are CPU OS now. Keyboards are going the same route.

Win7 is stable. XP is stable. It's loading on all the crap that makes them unstable. Don't load the crap and it will be stable.

Although I would expect that Linux to be a better choice, the plugin makers just don't seem to think so.

Why something like this isn't a MAC (which is Unix like Linux) is because Apple doesn't share their OS outside of Macs.

I think this is going to be a big hit for Orange if the price is reasonable. Around or less than a Muse receptor.

And if they have a "Loading plugins for dummy's" application. Like Muse Plugorama.com site for the Receptor. Something that loads plugins and ties a set of default controls to the knobs.

All I can say if Great Job Orange! First usually sets some kind of cult following in the Music Industry.