output question (2x410 and 400 watt head)

bommer · #1 11-16-2010, 10:51 AM

i am thinking about purchasing another 410 cabinet.
its a peavey 410 cab with no problems that apparently 700watt output(for $200 which seems like a good deal)....ANYWAYS

if i used that peavey 410 cab and a yorkville 410 cab (both cabs 8ohms and my head takes a minimum of 4ohms so i dont see a problem there) would it be the same volume as just using 1 410 cabinet because the power is being split? and if it would be louder using both cabs, how much louder? (such as slighly, noticeable, double, ect..)

thanks

FanOfAlice · #2 11-16-2010, 10:54 AM

It will be quite a bit louder because there is more speaker area. also if you stack the 4x10s it will seem louder because the speakers will be closer to ear level.

bommer · #3 11-16-2010, 10:59 AM

ahh, alright.

now, do you think that double 410's (or even the single 410) would be good for smaller gigs?

Sartori · #4 11-16-2010, 11:37 AM

Well, I don't think so, but then again, I don't know the meaning of overkill.

bommer · #5 11-16-2010, 12:27 PM

lol, so your saying thats way too much?

JimmyM · #6 11-16-2010, 01:58 PM

depends on the gig. i'd never take an 810 rig to a jazz casual, but i have taken them to gigs where it was overkill. i didn't care...sounded great!

Sartori · #7 11-16-2010, 02:08 PM

As Jimmy says, it really depends on the gig.

Amps do have volume controls, too.

39-Bassist · #8 11-16-2010, 02:24 PM

+2 for JimmyM's statement....Done that speaker thing many times also and the sound is what counts...(I LOVE the overkill sound too, are my ears bleeding yet?)

bommer · #9 11-16-2010, 02:25 PM

yeah true.
well, i might just pick up the cab and try it out. seems like a good deal. thanks for the info everyone

bommer · #10 11-16-2010, 02:26 PM

haha, well, i also may have to try the overkill sound aswell

3k Mylz · #11 11-16-2010, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bommer

ahh, alright.

now, do you think that double 410's (or even the single 410) would be good for smaller gigs?

When you add a seperate cab two things happen:

1. You move more air - no matter what the speaker size is.

2. You decrease resistance. If both cabs are 8 Ohm your new resistance is 4 Ohm. That means if a head is 300W at 4 Ohm, using 1 8 Ohm cab you are getting 150W output. Add another cab, and you get 300W.

Now, that could be overkill in many a venue, but as many will tell you it's not how much power you have it's how much you have left.

i would say for most gigs using a drummer, 410 is fine, so long as you can go though FOH; if not, you may very well utilize the full 2X410, if only to keep your volume at 9:00.

bommer · #12 11-16-2010, 04:12 PM

so my head takes a minimum 4ohm level. my current cab is 8 ohms. now, if i were to keep both cabs plugged into the head creating a 4 ohm load, and keeping the voluems low, would the be fine?

also, from what your saying(i think), i will be getting alot more potential power out of my 400 watt head by have the ohm load at 4(by using 2 8 ohm cabs) then just 1 8ohm cab.

3k Mylz · #13 11-16-2010, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bommer

so my head takes a minimum 4ohm level. my current cab is 8 ohms. now, if i were to keep both cabs plugged into the head creating a 4 ohm load, and keeping the voluems low, would the be fine?

also, from what your saying(i think), i will be getting alot more potential power out of my 400 watt head by have the ohm load at 4(by using 2 8 ohm cabs) then just 1 8ohm cab.

Correct. 4 Ohm Min will work with 4 Ohm load and higher. Having 3 cabs@8 would be a load of 2.67, and spell trouble for your amp. Tons of threads on here about this subject in detail. The question you should ask yourself is, "am I happy with the output with one cab"?.