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Old 02-07-2011, 10:28 PM
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Is it ok or what?
Just looking at this...http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ht_4228wt_1139

As you can see, I'm not after anything too fancy, just loud.

What would the difference be between that and a normal, cheap bass cab (say 8x10) in terms of sound?

I'm kind of wondering why more people don't use P.A. speakers as cabs , there's probably a reason.

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Old 02-07-2011, 10:39 PM
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They are not tuned the same as bass cabs, but they may work for low volume.
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:47 PM
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Not sure what you mean, but I thought since they're P.A speakers, and P.As are generally for playing loud music through the entire frequency range... why shouldn't they work/be loud for bass?
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:55 PM
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I didn't say they wouldn't work, If you buy a good set of PA cabs they may work well but I try to use a set one time and they fatted out on me when I try to get a good playing volume.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:03 PM
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But was it 4x15s though? jk

I'm not going to be epically loud, heck a 4x10 bass cab would do, but I'm just thinking, 4x15s should easily be loud enough for small gigs/practice, so if I can afford them, and I probably won't use half of their potential in terms of RMS watts, why not? That's my logic.
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I may be mistaken, but the thing is, I'm not sure that good enough PA cabs to use as bass cabs would really save much money in comparison to just getting the same quality of bass cabs.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:11 PM
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Coincidence! I had excellent results recently!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLN-ZscNaNA

The song bursts into a highly bass visible, guitar solo.

This is From last Saturday with a p.a. and 410 ampeg classic.

P.a. is a 115 with horn. Mid and high control dials set nuetral.

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Old 02-07-2011, 11:16 PM
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I'm sure those particular PA cabs are crap. If you use decent PA cabs, though, you will have a great full range tone. I have done this hundreds of times on a variety of club gigs.
EV, JBL, Meyer, EAW, are all good choices.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:19 PM
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In all honesty.

It adds definition in the higher register if needed.
It adds defined low end punch.

And the trusty ampeg 410 supplies the rounded growl.

But then again I didn't buy it.
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I may be mistaken, but the thing is, I'm not sure that good enough PA cabs to use as bass cabs would really save much money in comparison to just getting the same quality of bass cabs.
In Australia it would. Stuff is expensive here.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:21 PM
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My dad plays bi-amped through JBL PA cabs, with either an MRX515 (15" + horn) or an MRX512 (12" + horn) on top and and an SRX series 18" on the bottom (I forgot which model). He also does the sound for his trio where he uses one of the 15"+horns and an SRX 18" for either side of the house setup. (his bass also goes here)

I personally wouldn't use a PA cabinet with 15"s unless you want to bi-amp with something larger on the bottom to take the low work out of the 15"s, or if you won't have a fair amount of reinforcement out front.

Either way, don't buy those speakers you linked. They look like crap and probably wouldn't do any good functioning in a PA.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:25 PM
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Expensive, high-end PA cabs can rock for bass. Anthony Jackson's "big rig" uses Meyer PA bins.

But back in affordable territory, you can either concentrate all your money on hefty, bass-happy drivers in a compact, portable box, or spread some of it around on a larger bin, and a big hi-frequency horn that you don't need.

Also, there are tuning differences. The woofers in cheap PA cabs traditionally have lighter cones, and the boxes are tuned for a flatter response, with less of the low-mid hump that gives bass-specific cabs their kick.

If you like a bright, hi-fi tone, PA bins can actually sound pretty good, but you have to watch levels. Not just because of the less-beefy drivers, but also because of the EQ you'll tend to dial in, to fatten up the low end.

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Old 02-07-2011, 11:31 PM
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Search for some of the discussion on Carvin's LS1503 cab. Some have been very pleased with that particular P.A. cab.
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Not sure what you mean, but I thought since they're P.A speakers, and P.As are generally for playing loud music through the entire frequency range... why shouldn't they work/be loud for bass?
This is why:
Starting bid: AU $200.00
You get what you pay for. If you're paying AU $200 for a pair of 2x15 cabs what you will get is crap.
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:57 AM
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This is why:
Starting bid: AU $200.00
You get what you pay for. If you're paying AU $200 for a pair of 2x15 cabs what you will get is crap.
I don't even mind if they're crap, $200 around here is insanely cheap. My current rig cost 250+ and I tell you, it can't be worse than my current rig.
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I don't even mind if they're crap, $200 around here is insanely cheap. My current rig cost 250+ and I tell you, it can't be worse than my current rig.
Yes they can. They could always be worse.

Sometimes insanely cheap stuff turns out not to even be worth that price.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:21 PM
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You ask us to help you so good luck with your $200 crap.
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Is it ok or what?
Just looking at this...http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....ht_4228wt_1139

As you can see, I'm not after anything too fancy, just loud.

What would the difference be between that and a normal, cheap bass cab (say 8x10) in terms of sound?

I'm kind of wondering why more people don't use P.A. speakers as cabs , there's probably a reason.
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What's wrong with the one you already have?
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:14 PM
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Hey Bro,

What's wrong with the one you already have?
HAhahahahaa you smarty pants, you!
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:18 AM
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Decent PA cabs make decent bass cabs. Cheap, crappy PA cabs make cheap, crappy bass cabs. Just the sensitivity rating alone makes me suspect and its probably inflated. Look for some older JBL, EV or Carvin PA cabs with front loaded speakers and you be much farther ahead of the game.
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