Peavey Tour 450 w/ 410TX ?

mello_bedwetter · #1 06-23-2011, 05:47 PM

Anyone have any experience with this amp/combination or either of the two? Thanks for any input.
Peavey Tour 450 with a Peavey 410TX

redhed · #2 06-23-2011, 05:59 PM

I think both of these sound good for the money - Peavey makes solid stuff . There is a review from BASSPLAYER magazine that you can see on the Peavey website.

jjk2007 · #3 06-23-2011, 06:01 PM

I had a couple of the cabs back in the day. I A/B'd one with a SWR Goliath II once and it was very hard to tell the two cabs apart. Of course, the Peavey had just come out while the SWR had been around already and the two cabs looked identical.... I kept mine for a couple of years and they worked great for me when I had them. BP mag also did a 410 shootout back then and this was one of the cabs in it. Might try and find that article.

mello_bedwetter · #4 06-23-2011, 06:22 PM

jjk...thanks for the info.

GreggBummer · #5 06-23-2011, 06:31 PM

I'm a Peavey Tour 450 owner. I also wrote a review in the amp section here on TB. Check it out.

Tour Series 450 - Bass Gear Reviews at TalkBass.com

This is my "go to" amp. I use it with Hartke cabs. It can get loud... especially when I combine my 410 with my 210. I have not had a single problem (knock on wood) with a Peavey amp. I have owned several.

The only change I would make to my review... It does not give you a "tube tone". It can sound warm... once you EQ your tone. If you want "tube breakup" or "crunch" you are going to need to put a pedal between your bass and amp. I use a VT Bass for this purpose.

For an affordable, tough, solid state amp you can rely on... the Tour 450 delivers.

mello_bedwetter · #6 06-23-2011, 06:39 PM

I can get the 410TX for a good price. I don't know how easy it would be to get another one if I wanted to bump the output to 4 ohms. I was thinking of going with one of the new Headliner cabs...it would be easy to match if I wanted a second cab. There's not many Headliners out there yet so I can't find any reviews.

GreggBummer · #7 06-23-2011, 06:47 PM

I'll be honest with you, I don't have a lot of experience with those cabs. I think that grabbing the 410 with the head is a good idea, especially if they are used.

An option for you... you can add a 210 cab later. The 210 sitting on top of the 410 will give you the 4ohm speaker array you are looking for, a definite increase in volume. (There are some smart guys here on TB who will dispute the physics of that, but that is a different thread). Just keep in mind that 410+210 does not equal SVT 810.

A 210 also gives you the option to scale down. If you don't need the 410, you can grab the 210 and your head and go. I use the 210 for small clubs and loud jam sessions. A 210 is also generally more affordable than another 410 you may not really need.

Just a thought.

brndn123 · #8 06-23-2011, 07:31 PM

This is a great combo IMO. I've used the Peavey Max 450 (older model of the tour I would assume) with the 410tx for over 5 years in tons of different musical applications and it's more than proved its worth every time. In fact, the 450 is still my backup! You really can't go wrong with the head, however the cab may be a different story.

You are not likely to find a louder, deeper cabinet for the price of the Peavey 410tx (used? impossible). They are absolute bass monsters and I guarantee you will forget you are playing through a 450 watt head. The only drawbacks are its size and weight. The thing is a beast and if transportation or muscle mass is an issue, you may want to seriously rethink your options. Another thing, these cabinets aren't the best for modern sounding tones. Don't get me wrong, they will ALWAYS cut through the mix. However, if you are looking for that crisp Wooten/Miller tone, you may want to consider Hartke or GK. The true magic of this cab is its warmth. If eq'd right, you can make it sound like an 8x10, 2x15, etc. Perfect for anything rock, blues, or metal.

Good luck on your purchase!

Brandon

mello_bedwetter · #9 06-23-2011, 07:34 PM

I have a GK MB210 combo that I use with the 210MBE extension cab. The output is 500 watts using the combo and cab. I also have an old Peavey Combo 300 which runs at 210 watts I think at 4 ohms, 300 watts at 2 ohms. It seems to me that the Peavey at 210 watts has output power than the GK "rig". With the old 300 on "2" it is LOUD.I only have the Combo 300, no ext cab.

mello_bedwetter · #10 06-23-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brndn123

This is a great combo IMO. I've used the Peavey Max 450 (older model of the tour I would assume) with the 410tx for over 5 years in tons of different musical applications and it's more than proved its worth every time. In fact, the 450 is still my backup! You really can't go wrong with the head, however the cab may be a different story.

You are not likely to find a louder, deeper cabinet for the price of the Peavey 410tx (used? impossible). They are absolute bass monsters and I guarantee you will forget you are playing through a 450 watt head. The only drawbacks are its size and weight. The thing is a beast and if transportation or muscle mass is an issue, you may want to seriously rethink your options. Another thing, these cabinets aren't the best for modern sounding tones. Don't get me wrong, they will ALWAYS cut through the mix. However, if you are looking for that crisp Wooten/Miller tone, you may want to consider Hartke or GK. The true magic of this cab is its warmth. If eq'd right, you can make it sound like an 8x10, 2x15, etc. Perfect for anything rock, blues, or metal.

Good luck on your purchase!

Brandon

The weight of it is my only concern. I think it's 90 pounds compared to my GK combo and extension cabinet, totaling around 70 pounds. So the Tour 450 with the TX is pretty loud?
Btw...I'm not too concerned how it sounds with the newer music...I mainly play the old classic rock and some country. Thanks for the info.

brndn123 · #11 06-23-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mello_bedwetter

I have a GK MB210 combo that I use with the 210MBE extension cab. The output is 500 watts using the combo and cab. I also have an old Peavey Combo 300 which runs at 210 watts I think at 4 ohms, 300 watts at 2 ohms. It seems to me that the Peavey at 210 watts has output power than the GK "rig". With the old 300 on "2" it is LOUD.I only have the Combo 300, no ext cab.

That kind of sounds like some EQ issues, the GK stuff is very articulate and the slightest adjustment can completely alter their tone. However, the Peavey stuff is very loud indeed. You will have absolutely no problem playing a large venue with this rig. Also, I strongly recommend using a pedal for grit as mentioned in the above comment. If you are looking for that tube breakup tone, defintely invest in a VT. If you are looking for a bit more versatility or maybe full on distortion, I recommend the MXR M80 or Sansamp BDDI. It will really turn that rig into a tone monster.

Cheers.

mello_bedwetter · #12 06-23-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brndn123

That kind of sounds like some EQ issues, the GK stuff is very articulate and the slightest adjustment can completely alter their tone. However, the Peavey stuff is very loud indeed. You will have absolutely no problem playing a large venue with this rig. Also, I strongly recommend using a pedal for grit as mentioned in the above comment. If you are looking for that tube breakup tone, defintely invest in a VT. If you are looking for a bit more versatility or maybe full on distortion, I recommend the MXR M80 or Sansamp BDDI. It will really turn that rig into a tone monster.

Cheers.

To me(my opinion)the old 300 Combo just has a deeper more powerful, solid sound.

brndn123 · #13 06-23-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mello_bedwetter

The weight of it is my only concern. I think it's 90 pounds compared to my GK combo and extension cabinet, totaling around 70 pounds. So the Tour 450 with the TX is pretty loud?
Btw...I'm not too concerned how it sounds with the newer music...I mainly play the old classic rock and some country. Thanks for the info.

It is a large, bulky 90lbs. I'm 6'4, 270lbs and its a nightmare loading it up myself after a gig. However, if your bandmates can help (expect complaining), you shouldn't let the weight stop you from the purchase. Like I said earlier, you will not find a 4x10 out there as loud as the 410tx for the price. As for the combo, they are perfect together. Also, my Max 450 could run a 2 ohm load. I would assume the Tour 450 does the same which is great if you ever want to mix and match cabs with different ohm ratings and get the most out of your amp.
I say go for it. Worst case: sell the 4x10 if its too heavy and keep the 450. That is a good amp that will never let you down.

mello_bedwetter · #14 06-23-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brndn123

It is a large, bulky 90lbs. I'm 6'4, 270lbs and its a nightmare loading it up myself after a gig. However, if your bandmates can help (expect complaining), you shouldn't let the weight stop you from the purchase. Like I said earlier, you will not find a 4x10 out there as loud as the 410tx for the price. As for the combo, they are perfect together. Also, my Max 450 could run a 2 ohm load. I would assume the Tour 450 does the same which is great if you ever want to mix and match cabs with different ohm ratings and get the most out of your amp.
I say go for it. Worst case: sell the 4x10 if its too heavy and keep the 450. That is a good amp that will never let you down.

I'm getting the 450 Saturday. I've been looking on Ebay for cabs.

Dustin Teel · #15 06-23-2011, 08:30 PM

I am not fond of the Peavey Tour series heads. The tone is good, but they lack the volume and punch of comparable brand name heads or older Peavey gear. They just don't get loud enough to be 450/700 watts imo. And I'm not just hating, I've been using Peavey gear since I started playing bass (like most of us, probably) and loving it. Unfortunately, the tour heads disappointed me.