Peavey TVX412 vs. TVX410 + TVX115

rhythmless · #1 06-17-2010, 10:50 AM

A lot of you chimed in on my post yesterday and it's greatly appreciated. I'm still bouncing around the idea of picking up the TVX412 I scoped out at the local shop. So now I have a new question:

If you had the TVX410 and TVX115 together, would you trade them both for one TVX412? Maybe combine the TVX410 with the TVX412? Or maybe some other variation? I'd read some suggestions that the 410 and 412 would be a killer setup, but it would also kill my freakin back. I'm not opposed to getting a good workout if the tone is there. Comments?

Running just the 412 I'll get 475 @ 4 ohms. Combined with the 410, 700 watts @ 2 ohms. If the 412 is comparable in volume with better tone, I'm fine with just a one cab setup (and so is my back). Either way, I'm gonna go test drive it Saturday but was interested to hear everyone's input.

sammyfallen · #2 06-17-2010, 01:03 PM

The 412 is GREAT standalone cab (IMO) & So is the 410

If your back can handle it that would be one of the sickest rigs ever assembled (IMO)...

i_got_a_mohawk · #3 06-17-2010, 01:11 PM

I'm still going to stick with the 410 + 412 suggestion. It may be heavy, but it'll be worth it.

I also doubt it'll be much heavier than the 410 + 410 setup you currently have.

I def. wouldn't trade the full 410 + 115 for just the 412 tho, there isn't a huge price difference (used) between the 412 and 410.

You also dont *need* to use both cabs all the time. But, y'know

Floridabwoy · #4 06-17-2010, 01:15 PM

with the 412 you will not need anything else but a 1000 watt amp! Defo need the watts, and do not underpower it.

i have the 410 pushed by 600 w. and it has HUGE lows. In fact I screw up soundguys because my rig is so loud....

playerunk · #5 06-17-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridabwoy

with the 412 you will not need anything else but a 1000 watt amp! Defo need the watts, and do not underpower it.

underpowering = crap and unfounded. (reffer to the faq for further details)

sammyfallen · #6 06-17-2010, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by playerunk

underpowering = crap and unfounded. (reffer to the faq for further details)

I agree, I use mine with tube amps ranging from 100W-300W and have never had a sound issue... Plus the 412 is only rated for 600W RMS...

mustbampeg · #7 06-17-2010, 02:59 PM

Does Peavey even make the 412 anymore? Ive been on the hunt for one of these things for years and one will occassionally pop up, usually when i got no cash, lol....

I say go for the 412....IMO, they are pretty hard to come by, and you can always add a 410 or 115 later....It would be much harder to try to come by a 412 at a later date.
Just my .02

Randy

blendermassacre · #8 06-17-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mustbampeg

Does Peavey even make the 412 anymore? Ive been on the hunt for one of these things for years and one will occassionally pop up, usually when i got no cash, lol....

I say go for the 412....IMO, they are pretty hard to come by, and you can always add a 410 or 115 later....It would be much harder to try to come by a 412 at a later date.
Just my .02

Randy

there's been a guy on the KC craigslist trying to sell his for $500 firm for quite a bit. I would love one, but when I have money, they're never around. When they are, I'm broke. Firebass 700 + 412 tvx = epic

rhythmless · #9 06-17-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mustbampeg

Does Peavey even make the 412 anymore? Ive been on the hunt for one of these things for years and one will occassionally pop up, usually when i got no cash, lol....

I say go for the 412....IMO, they are pretty hard to come by, and you can always add a 410 or 115 later....It would be much harder to try to come by a 412 at a later date.
Just my .02

Randy

Already have the 410 and 115, so this will be in addition to those. Not trying to kill people so I don't think I'll try running all three at once. Might be an interesting experiment though. I'm thinking if I get it I'm gonna take the 115 home and use it as a practice amp whenever I can get an amp to go along with it.

mustbampeg · #10 06-17-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blendermassacre

Firebass 700 + 412 tvx = epic

I dunno, lol.... I used to have a Firebass and an Eden 410 xlt, but I could not get a good tone out of that combo to save my soul.....However, i currently have a little Peavey Basic 112 that is just the bomb tonewise....go figure, lmao.

Randy

rhythmless · #11 06-17-2010, 03:31 PM

This thing helped me out a lot with the tone. It always sounded too round before I started using it. Took me a while to dial in a sound I was totally happy with and I initially had the blend turned WAY too high. All that will do is give you a thin, papery sound. I keep the blend and treble at about 9 o'clock, the bass at 12 o'clock, and the drive all the way down. I think it sounds great now!

Ian Perge · #12 06-17-2010, 04:06 PM

I can't chime in on the "Peavey Angle" (unless you'd like to discuss their old TNT-150 15" combo... and trust me, you don't) but in general terms I would absolutely trade or swap the 1x15" cab for a 4x12". Like many people here I've found the 12" bass speaker to be a godsend in terms of my rig - the perfect combination of the low-end of a 15 (but not "flubby" as I personally find them to be) and the "punch" of your typical 10"... but with more low-mids and "roundness" to the tone which fits together with 10" speakers to my ears far better than a 15" does (I find there's a "gap" frequency-wise in a 4x10/1x15 setup that's filled quite nicely by a 10"/12" combination). I'm currently running a 2x10"/2x12" Clean/Effected rig that's absolutely "more than plenty" in both the volume and tone areas - if I ever got into a situation that required more speaker area I'd simply double it and go the 4x10"/2 or 4x12" that you're thinking of... or, karma help me, an 8x10"/4x12" setup that I've heard people like Troy Sanders of Mastodon (using Mesa) or Justin Meldal-Johnsen (using Aguilar during the last "shed" and "Wave Goodbye" tours with NIN). Pure sonic bliss if you're playing that level of stage and volume.

The other thing I like about 12s is that a 2x12" or 4x12" is that it can easily be used as a stand-alone cabinet as well as paired with 10" speakers, whereas the solitary 15" speaker doesn't work for me and my personal tone.

Sundogue · #13 06-17-2010, 04:27 PM

I've owned every Peavey cab ever made.

The 410 and 115 combined is truly a wasted effort. The 115 will be nothing more than the heaviest cab stand in existence. On it's own it's a fine cab, but the 410 will leave it in the dust volume wise. DO NOT use the 410 with the 115. The 410 will leave the 115 moot (or in this case "mute" as well). The 210TVX with the 115 is a fine combo of cabs, but not a 410 and 115.

Having said that, the 412TVX will crush both the 410 and 115 together. It is monstrously loud and insanely heavy. But with a decently high wattage amp, you could blow away most PA's with the 412 alone. I ran it with a newer (and lighter) CS800X (bridged) and I could not get it to fart out because you'll cause internal organ damage long before you can get it that loud. And I'm not really joking much about that. You'll surely cause hearing damage before you could get it to fart out. But it is HEAVY.

I'd never play through anything that heavy again, but the 412 was one of the best and loudest cabs I've ever played through (back in the day).

Adding another cab to the 412 is just plain stupid. If you need another cab with that you are already completely deaf.

RickenBoogie · #14 06-17-2010, 04:48 PM

The 412 TVX is my all-time favorite Peavey cab. I played an SVT CL through one, and it was indeed, LOUD. Do what you want with your other cabs, but that 412 will seriously be all you'll ever need cab wise.

i_got_a_mohawk · #15 06-17-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blendermassacre

there's been a guy on the KC craigslist trying to sell his for $500 firm for quite a bit. I would love one, but when I have money, they're never around. When they are, I'm broke. Firebass 700 + 412 tvx = epic

I doubt he'll get that much for it. I've seen them over here typically going for £100-£150. (The 410s aren't much cheaper used).

rhythmless · #16 06-17-2010, 09:39 PM

I think I'd be happy to pay about $450. The place is notorius for overpricing crap so I need to find one on the internet to say "look, it's not worth that much." The sticker on it said $759. No way. They also have a brand new Peavey Windsor that goes for $399 but they want $979 for it if that tells you anything.

blendermassacre · #17 06-17-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mustbampeg

I dunno, lol.... I used to have a Firebass and an Eden 410 xlt, but I could not get a good tone out of that combo to save my soul.....However, i currently have a little Peavey Basic 112 that is just the bomb tonewise....go figure, lmao.

Randy

i don't like eden cabs. at all. that maybe a huge problem. Firebass is pretty clear.

**barebones** · #18 06-17-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Floridabwoy

with the 412 you will not need anything else but a 1000 watt amp! Defo need the watts, and do not underpower it.....

"Defo" not true. Played the 4x12 for months with a 200 watt head. Loudest, lowest bass ever. Literally knocked glasses off the bar in one of the little dives we play. Trade off, in line with the laws of physics and whatnot, not small or light. Would like to try this cab design with plywood instead of particle board and neos instead of stock speakers. Probably knock a lot of weight off.

blendermassacre · #19 06-17-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by i_got_a_mohawk

I doubt he'll get that much for it. I've seen them over here typically going for £100-£150. (The 410s aren't much cheaper used).

NO one would spend that much. I think he paid full price for it right before they were discontinued a few years ago, so is feeling the sting.