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Old 03-01-2009, 06:45 PM
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Peavey Windsor mods for bass

This thing sounded pretty good out of the box. For $399 i couldn't pass it up. I had heard it was a JCM 800 clone, which it really isn't, but A/B'd against a real one it was pretty freaking close. The JJ 12AX7s are great for low end, and while i'm sure a more suitable replacement could be had for the Ruby EL34s, they still do a pretty good job.

While it was holding it's own at practice, the low end was a bit lacking as usually is with guitar amps. I figured there HAD to be a way to get more low end out of this. For under $25 you can get the parts to do it, all it requires are just a handful of caps.

The biggest single thing you can do to improve the low end is to replace C33 with a 10nF (stock is 22nF). This cap controls the bass tone control. If you do nothing else to the amp this one mod will give you noticably more bass. This mod increases the amount of bass boosted and moves the corner freq of it up some to include more of the low end. Keep in mind the tone controls are interactive, i've found that cranking the mids and keeping the treble at about 1/2 or below gives the most bass.

To get the full effect though, you need to let the low end through the preamp stages, and then out to and through the PI. As the gain builds in the preamp the low end is progressively cut out. For ease of modification, i suggest piggybacking a 0.1uf 400v cap onto C3, then 1uf 400v caps onto C18, C6, C13, C17, and C7. I tried putting 1uF caps on the first two gain stages as well (C39 and C3) but the amp became unstable.

Piggybacking sums the value of the caps so you get both values added together. I found this the easiest option because the leads on the 1uF caps are quite large and did not fit easily through the existing holes. Plus if you do a good job soldering and keep the leads short there's not reason not to piggyback them. They've been this way on my amp for over 2 years with no ill effects.

C17 and C7 are on the power amp board and will require you to remove it for access. The others can be tacked on without removing the preamp board but you'll have to remove it to replace C33 anyways.

This turns a decent amp into a firebreathing bass monster. It'll do a good growl but it's really a one trick pony meant to have the preamp gain cranked. For a few hours work you can get a great sounding amp that doesn't need a distortion pedal- plug and play and you're good to go. Even better yet, i've seen them go used for a little as $200!


Sound samples? Check the first two songs on our profile- recorded with an Ibanez SR405 through an ampeg 8x10 and no pedals or effects.

www.myspace.com/dissolute

If you need the schematic there's lots of them floating around the net.
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Old 05-31-2011, 02:16 PM
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I know this is a ridiculously old thread, but do you still use the head? If so any better sound clips?
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:43 PM
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Yeah I still use the head. It's currently down for repairs. I don't have any more current sound clips, sorry. You can basically get anything from a mild SVT type growl to a pretty thick distorted tone. It's not going to have the punch of a clean 500w solid state amp if you crank the gain but more of a Lemmy growl.

One thing i've been meaning to try but just haven't had the money to do is to replace the stock Ruby EL34s with JJ EL34Ls. They're supposed to have better low end.
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:50 PM
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That works fine anyway, I want it for Lemmy style growl in a really aggressive hardcore/sludge band
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Old 06-01-2011, 08:04 PM
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It should sound good then! Listen to the sound clips again on my page... only two of the songs use the Windsor- The Appeal of Self Destruction and New Direction. They're mixed pretty bass-heavy so you can hear how the sound of the Windsor really cuts through. While it's a different style of music you can get a good idea of the tone, especially during the bass/drums part on The Appeal of Self Destruction. FYI the first two songs are recorded direct with only a Visual Sound Route 66 and Boss EQ.

These heads are so cheap you can't go wrong picking one up. I've seen them on CL for $200. I am thinking about picking another one up so i can run a head with each 4x12 cab.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:06 AM
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I listened to all of the stuff on there, and you guys are pretty damn good. Also, the tone on those two is awesome
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:19 AM
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Thanks man! Too bad the band isn't together anymore You'll be happy with a Windsor if you want the Lemmy tone for cheap. And it works best with 4x12s.
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Old 06-02-2011, 05:50 PM
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What 412 are you using? I'm considering getting some Emperors soon, but I'll have to start saving pretty much now
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Old 06-02-2011, 06:19 PM
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I recently sold one here on TB that I had modded. The mods suggested above are definitely needed for bass. I also did some other things. I don't have the schematic in front of me, but I seem to remember reducing the gain on one of the 4 gain stages to unity gain on that stage and swapping pre amp tubes with 12AU7 or 12AT7 to get a little more clean volume (read Fender Dual Showman).
If you google "Peavey Windsor Amp Mods" you should be able to find a guy who has some very well documented mods.
One other thing: a set of Ruby EL34 BHT power tubes fattened things up nicely.
When I was done I was very satisfied.
Had to sell it because I was moving to acountry with 220v line voltage.
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:28 PM
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What is wrong with your Windsor?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:37 PM
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Nothing's wrong with it. I don't even have one, but that being said, I really want one for that Marshally bass tone
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Going to zombie this thread a bit, but I got a cheap windsor ($150 on C list) after reading about and listening to mikey's. He did give me a mod list but I didn't do any of them, only reversed mods the previous owner had made.

So far I've been using it with two GK MBE 212's and it's a great one trick pony. I have yet to put pedals in front of it, just my modified bronco bass, and the basses volume knob and my fingers to control it.

You get the best bass tone I find, maxing the bass and mids, and putting the treble between 0 and 12 o'clock. I keep the pre and master on about 8, and resonance at 0 and presence at 12. Finger style dials down the gain a little, while picking gives a massive initial attack and much more treble and grind (Ace of Spades?).

Overall a hell of a deal, and a great tube amp, I am using a fresh set of JJ El34's since the previous owner seemed to have just crammed a random assortment of octet based tubes in there... It should be obvious, but I'll note that at any kind of volume this is not a clean amp, nor a gut busting dub bass amp. What is does is provide an incredible natural breakup perfect for aggressive music, or with my EB-0 a good vintage barky grind. At 100 watts, a lot of speakers/sound reinforcement/smaller band would be needed for live use. My plan is to use it with a peavey 1x15 I fixed up to match it for in the house/recording/practice and alternatively use my 412 stack or go stereo and use a bigger SS amp to provide a clean bassy undertone when needed.

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