PF 500 warmth lacking in PF 800?
Confused. Another bass player in town put the 350, 500 and 800 through some paces, same PF cabs used and much tweaking. PF 350 just not quite enough, reasonably expected for some. The 500 and 800 where night and day different, to which the 500 had warmth and tone that the 800 couldn't touch no matter how much tweaking. It was cold and dry compared to the round warm tone of the 500. This was confirmed through my own testing, as well as local sales manager testing them out. So it's not one opinion, it's three different bass players after different sounds. Do you think something is "wrong", for lack of a better term, with the 800? Is the higher power changing the tone response in such a dramatic fashion? I will note also that we tried the 500 and 800 through some Svt cabs as well, same response though not as pronounced and I do recall playing the 800 through an HLF at a jam and it was overly warm and bassy to the point of too much roundness, lol. Possibly the room is my first thought as my two experiences were different locations. Anywho, couldn't deny my ears, purchased the PF 500 over the SVT3 Pro and PF 800,with much second guessing and testing (not on a whim). Bank account is happy and so is my band, through a SVT 410HEN it just has "it", comments on best bass tone ever heard at most recent gig, to each his own and I take it with a grain of salt but it was a nice complement to a new rig! (Previous played svt450h and svt410hlf).
Honestly, I think the PF500 and 800 sound identical.
I was thinking they should. I didn't believe the guys until I tried it myself. Maybe that unit is a tad off haha.
Not sure, bro. They do have the same preamps, and they sounded identical to me when I tried them. Then again, it was only a quick trial in the music store. But I've always found it the best idea to trust only your ears and not people on Talkbass ;) so it's all good. Enjoy your new amp!
I have owned both heads. I currently own the 800. The tone was very similar to my ears, only difference to me was that the 800 sounds much more "ballsy" if you will.
Other wise they are identical to me.
One of the settings I absolutely love with the 800 that the 500 couldn't get before running out of steam very quickly was:
Mid selector at 2-450hz
Mid at 2 o'clock
Bass at 3 with ultra low engaged
Gain at 1
Treble at 10-11 o'clock.
Compressor at 9 o'clock (cuz of octave pedal)
Master to taste.
Very warm fat and growly.
I run it through a PF410hlf and it sounds great all the way up. I even run a boss OC-3 in front of it to grind it out.
The 500 just ran out of gas quickly when ever I tried to cop that kind of tone. I loved the tone though just as much.
Maybe the unit was a turd?
Mine is a gem!
Those settings are pretty close to how I run my PF800, except for the ultra low switch. Warm and fat and huge with a little *bing* on the attack, lol. Gonna have to try that ultra low, thanks!
I run mine tone set flat and gain at 12 noon, master at 11...it sounds nice with my 63 P Bass.
clock settings, i had the pf 500 bass at 10, mid at 1, treble at 1, master was at 1or 2, compressor at 9, gain at 2. No ultra low or high switch, didn't seem to help any for the room. I loved the tone, really wanted the 800 but so far the 500 is more than capable ( though contemplating an svt 7 or 3). Also will try an ampeg 212 and pf410hlf soon.
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