A pointless thread that should be deleted

[Otso]

Probably shoud think before asking stupid questions.

[greenboy]

[JimmyM]

what greenboy is trying to say is that it's all a case by case basis and there is more than one perfect match for the wattage.

[rpsands]

With 10" woofers, a 6x10 is your best bet for that much wattage. It's the most likely to take all of your watts.

Other factors play a major role however; bass boost, how much fundamental your bass puts out, high pass filter frequency, whether you're using synthy effects or compression and all kinds of stuff.

Really a complex question.

[Otso]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

what greenboy is trying to say is that it's all a case by case basis and there is more than one perfect match for the wattage.

I wasn't so much looking for one perfect match, but guidelines to what would in most cases be a reasonable match.

[Sundogue]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Greenboy often says an awful lot without much typing.

[m.oreilly]

again, there are too many variables re driver/cab specs to have a "reasonable" answer

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by Otso

I wasn't so much looking for one perfect match, but guidelines to what would in most cases be a reasonable match.

A 500 watt 110. That will give you 50 watts per inch.

A 115 will only allow your amp to put out around 33 watts per inch. A 215 will bring your output way down to only about 15 watts per inch.

Do the math, or do a search...possibly in the FAQ section?

[Otso]

Oh well... I didn't realize that there is so much variance in equipment with similar ratings. How do the companies measure these things, throw a dice and look at a chart "I got a 2 so that means it can handle 400W"?

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by Otso

How do the companies measure these things, throw a dice and look at a chart?

No, they reserve that for the marketing department.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by Otso

Oh well... I didn't realize that there is so much variance in equipment with similar ratings. How do the companies measure these things, throw a dice and look at a chart "I got a 2 so that means it can handle 400W"?

because numbers can be manipulated. like bass playing, it's not what you say but what you don't say.

[Mr. Foxen]

The optimal amount of speaker to get the greatest volume from a given number of amp watts is: all of them. Doom.

[dmot002]

Originally Posted by Otso

I was wondering what would typically be the optimal amount of speaker area for a certain amount of power (solid state)?
By optimal, I mean having enough speaker area that you can get the most out of the amp in terms of volume, but also not having so much speaker area that it doesn't bring much more usable volume due to the amp not being able to drive the speakers properly. Assuming that the cabs could "handle" (when it comes to the power ratings if they mean anything) all the power. For example in the extreme cases you would have an amp that is very powerful, but limited speaker area (500W into a 1x10") or a lot of speaker area, but an amp with little power (100W into a 8x10"). Obviously different amps and cabs can be very different even if they have the same ratings

I've also made a poll.
I'm tired and failing to fall asleep, so I thought I'd post a thread that might not make much sense, but then again it might.

Do funny looking green plants grow in Finland ?

[billfitzmaurice]

Originally Posted by Otso

I've also made a poll.

AFAIK the laws of physics aren't subject to a vote.

again, there are too many variables re driver/cab specs to have a "reasonable" answer

More to the point, driver area is moot. Driver displacement is the limiting factor.

the amp not being able to drive the speakers properly.

[jnewmark]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

AFAIK the laws of physics aren't subject to a vote.
More to the point, driver area is moot. Driver displacement is the limiting factor.

Dammit, I wanted to post the captain this time !

[Growly Lytes]

I dont think its a very good question as everyone has said theres to many things to consider.If you gonna get a 500watt S.S amp try to get a cab that is around the same power as the amp.Doubling the power to a cab is a good thing.

[Sundogue]

Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice

If ever there were the most perfect response to a post on Talkbass, the look on Picard's face is...

priceless!!!

[NateS]

billfitzmaurice ftw

i love reading your posts...

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by Growly Lytes

I dont think its a very good question as everyone has said theres to many things to consider.If you gonna get a 500watt S.S amp try to get a cab that is around the same power as the amp.Doubling the power to a cab is a good thing.

sorry growly, but it really isn't. doubling the power that the cabs take is a PROFESSIONAL sound man trick to keep the amps from clipping and blowing high frequency drivers. accent on PROFESSIONAL. as we all know, most bass players don't have that level of discipline to keep from turning the knobs up past what the cab can take. that's why you see so many "i just blew my cab" threads on here.

[JimmyM]

dude, if you don't ask, how will you know? sometimes the engineer types on here get a little short with the answers (at least they mix entertaining pictures in with it...some don't even do that), but it's only because they get asked a lot on a daily basis. but it's a perfectly legit question to ask...it's just that the answer turned out to be a whole different ballgame from what you thought originally. it happens. i used to get corrected a buttload on here when i first started hanging in the amp forum, and i'm a pro musician with almost 35 years experience.