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View Poll Results: Upgrading a cab vs buying new? | |
Get the S2010 and upgrade the 1x10"
|   | 2 | 8.33% | |
Get a new neo driver for the 1x10 (specify type below)
|   | 0 | 0% | |
Get a new GK MBE210
|   | 17 | 70.83% | |
Get a different cab (30lbs or less) give make model and why
|   | 5 | 20.83% |  | 
08-09-2011, 04:03 PM
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Hey all,
I have a conundrum: I have a GK MB200, a Dr. _ass 1x15" and an older SWR 1x10". I have been running both of the cabs with good results, but I am looking to make a change. I am not making a change to the 1x15" since it works really well and sounds good.
I have used the 1x10 in the past for practice, but at 38lbs, it is really heavy for a 100watt 1x10. I want to go lighter. I have run all sorts of calculations and with the cab size and ports, an Eminence S2010 would be a perfect fit (tone and power wise). That would bring the cab weight down by about 10lbs since the old SWR Driver is 14lbs on its own.
My other option would be to sell off the 1x10 and save up a bit for a GK 210MBE (at 30lbs, it would fit the lighter bill), but it is bulkier, and much more costly than a S2010 (I have found them for $116...if you know a cheaper source let me know).
Any opinions?
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08-09-2011, 06:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA | | | How much does the 15" weigh? And there's no chance of finding another one of those?
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08-09-2011, 07:48 PM
| | | | The 15" is about 40lbs, which is great for a 15. There is no chance in hell that I would purchase a cab from that company again...see the very first sticky in this forum to see why. Plus I like the combination of punch and power I get from mixing 10's and 15's.
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08-09-2011, 07:51 PM
|  | Registered Bass Offender | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cambria, CA (Central Coast) | | | Why are you making a change? That will influence the choices.
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08-09-2011, 07:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA | | | I guess there's no chance of finding another of the same cab used?
And yes, what are you going for, tonally? Is weight the only reason you're getting rid of the 1x10?
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08-09-2011, 08:19 PM
| | | | I have always been able to dial in a tone that I like with a variety of cabs (plus I have modded cabs in the past to change the frequency response by changing port sizes). The biggest reason for the change is 2-fold. One is weight. The 1x10 size is great, can be carried with one hand, but is damn heavy at 38lbs (to be carried with one hand.) The second is the low power handling of the 1x10. Currently it is only rated at 100 watts. Upping to 150 or 200 gives me a little safety net with my MB200.
The reality is that if I change to a 210, I get better power handling (especially if I add a power amp in the future) but gives up the "carry the cab with one hand, head in the gig bag" that can be achieved for my small coffee-house sized gigs.
A big draw to the change is being able to go to the small gigs and practice with a small cab weighing closer to 27lbs, the head at 2lbs and my bass. | 
08-09-2011, 08:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA | | | You can't carry a 210 in one hand? They're not very big.
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08-09-2011, 09:04 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | Just shoving any old driver into an existing box will be a crapshoot at best. D/L WinISD, measure your box and try and identify a driver that will work well in your box.
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08-09-2011, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul Just shoving any old driver into an existing box will be a crapshoot at best. D/L WinISD, measure your box and try and identify a driver that will work well in your box. | As per my first post, that is what I did. I ran through a whole mess of drivers, a call to Eminence, WinISD, a few sub-box calculators. In the end, I got a nice wide flat response from all of the calculators with the S2010. Much better than the other eminence models. One nice thing is that adjusting the port on this cab is pretty easy, and according to my measurements, the cab is tuned to 70hz, but can be easily modded to drop that to 55hz. Using either model wields a nice increase in bottom end and overall frequency response compared to the original driver.
The only issue is finding accurate info on the original driver. It is a SWR Custom Design speaker from the early 2000's, but looks like and acts like an Eminence Legend (but only rated for 100watts per SWR) | 
08-09-2011, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sartori You can't carry a 210 in one hand? They're not very big. | I know I could with the right 210, that is why I like the specs on the MBE210, nice and compact and lightweight. Not sure about the tone with it. The benefit of my current 1x10, is that I know how it acts and even with a driver change I can tune the port to get it where I want it (within reason).
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