Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Amps [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
porting an ampeg 8x10

Sign in to disble this ad
what do you guys think about porting the upper half of an ampeg 8x10?
good idea? bad idea?
  #2  
Old 06-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Bristol, UK
You'd need to change speakers to ones that were suitable for ported cabs too. Similar topic recently, basically, not worth it.

Edit: 10" subwoofers in an Ampeg 8x10 cab?
__________________
myspace.com/caricaturesband
ampstack.wordpress.com

Last edited by Mr. Foxen : 06-01-2010 at 03:55 PM. Reason: adding link
  #3  
Old 06-01-2010, 03:56 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just South of Chicago
I'd say don't do it. The "thing" about ampeg 810s is that they aren't ported. That's part of what makes it special. I'd get something else and part ways with the ampeg if I needed a port. It will decrease the value AND you have no idea what it'd sound like.
__________________
"The only two things in life that make it worth livin', is guitars tuned good and firm feelin' women."
  #4  
Old 06-01-2010, 04:06 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Phoenix
4x10 HLF

Hey,

Take a listen to Ampeg 4x10 HLF, it's ported.
  #5  
Old 06-01-2010, 04:35 PM
Registered User

Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Quote:
Originally Posted by huben94 View Post
Hey,

Take a listen to Ampeg 4x10 HLF, it's ported.
AFAIK it uses a different driver.
  #6  
Old 06-01-2010, 04:48 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
I think ported enclosures < Sealed for a few reasons, just my 2 cents. That said, YOU need to decide what to think about it...SO....

Find the cubic inches(volume) internal on your cab. Go to like car audio.com or realmofexcursion.com or diyaudio.com and follow the links you will find to a ported enclosure designer. Even AJDesigner works. Enter your cubic volume, and play with port diameters and lengths until you find for yourself if it is worth it.

Remember to detract the volume of your port from the Cubic inches/ft of the enclosure!!

Also, You are better off with a few smaller ports than one large one. Just protects a little better when notes under resonance frequency/ tuning happen.


Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrackpipex View Post
what do you guys think about porting the upper half of an ampeg 8x10?
good idea? bad idea?
  #7  
Old 06-01-2010, 05:01 PM
HMZ's Avatar
HMZ HMZ is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: USA-Mineola
Supporting Member
Why mess with a classic....There are plenty of other cabs that are ported.
__________________
Fender Jazz Bass club #124 - Fender P Bass club # 30
Genz Benz #329
  #8  
Old 06-01-2010, 05:28 PM
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
if you have to ask, then you don't know enough about porting or how the 810e is built to pull it off.
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
  #9  
Old 06-01-2010, 05:45 PM
73jbass's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ellenwood,Ga.
GOLD Supporting Member
You would have to port it from the back. Not a lot of room for ports on the front panel. Leave it alone and get a ported cab.
__________________
Music Man Sterling 5HS/Tobias Killer B 6/ Thunderfunk 550 /Ampeg Heritage 810.
  #10  
Old 06-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St Louis
Quote:
Originally Posted by billfitzmaurice View Post
AFAIK it uses a different driver.
That would be correct.... The 810 driver is not well suited to porting.... which is not surprising, since it is made for a sealed cab.
__________________
Yes I USED TO work for Ampeg...but I haven't forgotten everything.
  #11  
Old 06-02-2010, 11:24 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
After looking it over a tad and going by some (differing) online specs, here is a generalized solution.

1- The ports will weaken the baffle. So, you will have to brace the baffle. Or double it. Or side/rear port.

2- You need to lose somewere between 1-to 1-1/2 cubic ft internal volume for the enclosure to allow proper speaker function throughout the power range. This is PER EACH 4x SECTION.

3- The best way would be rear-firing the ports. If you mic the cab, no port noise etc will happen. Easier to isolate for recording as well.

I would say gut the cab, brace it internally with thick wood, use length x width x height inch measurements on bracing, and make 1800 or so cubic inches of bracing to further sturdy the cab. Then the port displacement will get you close to the cubic foot requirements of the ported spec. Use four 2 inch pvc ports or six 1-1/4 pc ports and let them stick out th back a little past flush, and use a connector and extra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 inch cuts to tunethe enclosure. after tuning, make noteof TOTAL length, and use the same total length ofpipe, just internal.

You can use elbows for length, remember length is through the center, and the elbow restricts flow a tad, so two 45's are better than one 90.

Route the port holes outof the cab, facing out to smooth turbulence, or set them flush ad build up a smooth ring around each hole with a flange or epoxy/ bondo, a wood custom flange.

All in all, you stand to gain 2.5-4 db dependant upon tuning etc. The sound quality will change as well.
  #12  
Old 06-21-2010, 07:00 AM
giacomini's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Florianopolis - Brazil
Supporting Member
I might be wrong, but aren't the ampeg 8x10 sealed in four rows of two speakers? That would take 4 (or eight) precisely calculated ports to work...

Anyway I wouldn't do it. Like some have said before, if your're not satisfied with a piece of gear that others might like, don't put it apart, sell it and get something you might like better...
__________________
Fender MIA #255|Fender P Bass #524|ERB #94|Ampeg #729|5er #390|Key Players Turned Bassist #19|VTBass #124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petegrinder View Post
...the standard "Precision pickup" (the one that looks like a Tetris block)
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:23 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.