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01-15-2012, 06:12 PM
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I Am looking for recommendations for powered monitors that I will be using in an amp less rig. It needs to be solid enough to handle the band mix as well as my bass.
I'm not looking for a debate about amped or ampless rigs. Merely solid recommendations from fellow TBers. Thanks.
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01-15-2012, 06:36 PM
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01-15-2012, 06:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kelowna, BC | | | Gigged for several years going ampless on stage, everyone through the monitors. Band consisted of various keys, Cajun style accordian, electric/acoustic guitar, drums, bass and all 5 of us singing.
We used 4 powered JBL Eon 15's (the wedge style) on stage with 2 more and powered subs out front. Never had a problem hearing myself although I do admit our drummer wasn't really heavy handed. We ran the mix to the mains and 4 subgroups on the mixer, but kept the subs out of the main mix. That way we could control the volume level of each monitor to taste without affecting anything out front. Each monitor had its own 31 band EQ. Set up this way we knew exactly where we were individually because it was in fact the main mix we were listening to.
One of my side projects has a set of the new JBL Eon 15's but they aren't the wedge style. These are a lot lighter (half the weight) don't put out the same power but half the price of the wedge style.
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01-15-2012, 06:43 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: dfw | | | I have used a JBL powered monitors with pretty good results.You might also think about your own personal IEM.Before we switched the whole band to them I was experimenting with it.I bought a small mixing board and had the soundman send my monitor mix to my board.I would split my bass and vocal signals between my board and soundman.Actually worked pretty good.I had control of my bass and vocal,and would bleed in as much of the rest of the band as I needed. | 
01-15-2012, 06:49 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: West Warwick, RI | | | I ran a QSC K12 the other week with my Line 6 Bass Pod as a pre... Sounded pretty damn good.
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01-15-2012, 08:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Finland (Northern Europe) | | Hi. Quote:
Originally Posted by Medford Bassman I'm not looking for a debate about amped or ampless rigs. | I'd say it'll be hard to avoid that, even today when more and more people are aware of the undisputed benefits of that approach.
That said, I've used my SWR WM10 on a stand for that purpose.
Not too great for other than MI amplification though. Depending on the EQ structures, the vocals sound from funny to unbearable.
Back in the day when I finally got to choose what to use, and decided to run ampless on my biggest gig to date, I used the houses DB wedges.
One thing to always keep in mind though, is that the rest of the band probably needs/wants to hear the bass as well, so if their monitoring isn't up to it, our efforts for clearer sound and less cluttered stage will be in vain in the end.
In the project band I'm in, the drummer has a Behringer bass combo as a monitor, and I feed him the bass and occasionally some vocals into it.
The guitarists hear me well enough for their tastes  .
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01-15-2012, 08:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | I used to play at this one church all the time and used a Mackie SRM450 quite often. It worked okay. The only negative thing I could say about it is that it sounded like a floor monitor. 
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01-15-2012, 08:59 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Havasu City, Az USA | | | JBLs, had Mackie powered monitors die in the summer heat here. 5 out of 6 went dead, one even smoked up the stage. JBLs no problem.
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01-16-2012, 08:29 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: West Warwick, RI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by B-string JBLs, had Mackie powered monitors die in the summer heat here. 5 out of 6 went dead, one even smoked up the stage. JBLs no problem. | I had the opposite experience. I used both the SRM350's and SRM450's for years without fail. The thing is to look for the older versions, prefferably the one's made in Italy. The newer Chinese blue one's really were not that good.
I still stand by me QSC recommendation. You will not find a better sounding speaker for the money.
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01-16-2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by logicman69 I still stand by me QSC recommendation. You will not find a better sounding speaker for the money. | +1!
I have two K10s that rock pretty hard. 
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01-16-2012, 10:49 AM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Unless something has changed with Mackie, they have been rock solid IME. Summer heat, humidity, abusive load ins/outs, occasional rain. Never had one fail.
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01-16-2012, 10:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Carrboro, NC | | | Another vote for QSC K12.
I have been using mine for electric and acoustic bass, both through the Fdeck preamp.
Also used it a lot with my Nord C2 organ.
Gets purty loud!!!! | 
01-16-2012, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by logicman69 I ran a QSC K12 the other week with my Line 6 Bass Pod as a pre... Sounded pretty damn good. | Great powered monitor solution!!
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01-16-2012, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dlargent Another vote for QSC K12.
I have been using mine for electric and acoustic bass, both through the Fdeck preamp.
Also used it a lot with my Nord C2 organ.
Gets purty loud!!!! | What's the difference between the K12, and the KW122, besides, one is made from wood, one made from plastic ? Also, do you guys place these monitors on the floor, or on a pole ?
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01-16-2012, 12:42 PM
| | | | Our band uses all Mackie powered monitors and not had a problem with them at all. 2 of them are SRM450 that were bought years ago when they first came out - never failed and still sound great. They have even been used for FOH on small gigs previously.
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01-16-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jnewmark What's the difference between the K12, and the KW122, besides, one is made from wood, one made from plastic ? Also, do you guys place these monitors on the floor, or on a pole ? | That's just it... one is wood, one is plastic. No power or speaker difference.
I used mine on the floor as a wedge.
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01-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by logicman69 That's just it... one is wood, one is plastic. No power or speaker difference.
I used mine on the floor as a wedge. | Notice any difference when laying it on it's side, as oppossed to upright ? It kinda looks like a Thunderchild !
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01-16-2012, 01:44 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tampa, FL | | | SRM450's V1's if you can find them used. We run 2 of these for monitors, replaced a horn tweeter for $40. Parts on ebay. | 
01-16-2012, 03:01 PM
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I use a ART310a and a 902as sub for bass monitoring.
They have a large palette of choices , prices , etc.....
The Serie 7 are simply amazing.
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01-16-2012, 03:05 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | I have 2 Mackie SRM 450's. They have been used both as our FOH for vocals with no problem. We have a more robust PA now so the Mackie's serve as our stage monitors, again with no problem at all.
I also have a Yorkville powered sub that we use now too. The Yorkville line is another good brand to look into if you want some powered speakers.
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