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06-06-2010, 02:09 PM
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Although I've never tried this in a gig situation I have read in "Bass Player" awhile ago that it is entirely feasible.
Plugging into an Avalon U5 (pure class A) DI , then into power while using the active pre on the bass (eg: Sadowsky) for tone shaping. The U5 has a (very) HI Z input & a boast circuit so you could set the output level to suit the bass' vol.control range that you prefer. It also has other very usable features. Any opinions?
I ask primarily because the U5 is one of the best TONE PURIFIERS that I have ever heard. I run mine into a dbx160a comp for recording.
Thanks,
B.
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06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by P. Bass Although I've never tried this in a gig situation I have read in "Bass Player" awhile ago that it is entirely feasible.
Plugging into an Avalon U5 (pure class A) DI , then into power while using the active pre on the bass (eg: Sadowsky) for tone shaping. The U5 has a (very) HI Z input & a boast circuit so you could set the output level to suit the bass' vol.control range that you prefer. It also has other very usable features. Any opinions?
I ask primarily because the U5 is one of the best TONE PURIFIERS that I have ever heard. I run mine into a dbx160a comp for recording.
Thanks,
B. | There's a fair number of bassists that use it and love it as a bass preamp.
It does have some presets that can modify your tone, but I would definitely want to use an active bass with it for finer control of the tone.
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06-06-2010, 02:24 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | I worked that way for 7 years but with a TD100.
Light , small footprint , and sounds incredible!
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06-06-2010, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fokof I worked that way for 7 years but with a TD100.
Light , small footprint , and sounds incredible! | There's something I find very special about "Pure Class A" for bass.
I've even got a class A hd ph amp ( "Gilmore Lite" by "Headamp")
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06-06-2010, 03:44 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | | Sorry my post wasn't clear , I wasn't comparing units. The two being VERY different beasts.
Just saying that I worked with a bass/DI/active box for many years with good success. The EQ and pickup selector on my bass is plenty of control.
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06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fokof Sorry my post wasn't clear , I wasn't comparing units. The two being VERY different beasts.
Just saying that I worked with a bass/DI/active box for many years with good success. The EQ and pickup selector on my bass is plenty of control. | I couldn't quite divine that from your post --
The U5 will have BOATLOADS more gain (which means it will work better with a wider variety of power amps) and probably will have a slightly more hi-fi tone that is very fast, but still plenty warm.
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06-06-2010, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by lo-freq I couldn't quite divine that from your post --
The U5 will have BOATLOADS more gain (which means it will work better with a wider variety of power amps) and probably will have a slightly more hi-fi tone that is very fast, but still plenty warm. | Me & a buddy who works in a local pro audio dept. were discussing the U5 vs the Avalon 737 tube unit & he was saying that the 737(it's particular tube circuit) can tonally wander as it warms & can get unstable in that respect, even after warmup. The Class A is rock solid ALL DAY LONG. ALL of your points are well taken bro. I just wondered if anyone had experienced any issues w/ the U5, in a live situation. Thanks again people.
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06-06-2010, 06:37 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco | | | Wouldn't the Avalon M5 be better suited for preamp duties? I've been looking at it for home recording duties recently. | 
06-06-2010, 08:07 PM
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