pulled the trigger on a pr410hlf

lyes4string · #1 08-22-2011, 05:13 PM

ok i really didnt need it with the exception of making moving rig easier, but i found it at a reasonable price so i picked it up. i currently run an ampeg svt 5 pro through a pr810, im simply looking for suggestions to run through the pr410hlf. im torn between the 4 pro which i know and trust, and a svt 2pro, which one of my guitar players knows someone trying to get rid of. any thoughts on the two? or maybe another suggestion?

Gearhead17 · #2 08-22-2011, 05:18 PM

2 PRO - Ampeg Tube Growl, lots of tone options.

4 PRO - clean and warm sounding, no tube growl. Similar to the 5 PRO without the distortion channel.

Can not go wrong with either if you are an Ampeg guy. PR410hlf a 4 ohm cab? If not, I am pretty sure the 2 PRO is only going to work with a 4 ohm or 2 ohm load.

lyes4string · #3 08-22-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gearhead17

2 PRO - Ampeg Tube Growl, lots of tone options.

4 PRO - clean and warm sounding, no tube growl. Similar to the 5 PRO without the distortion channel.

Can not go wrong with either if you are an Ampeg guy. PR410hlf a 4 ohm cab? If not, I am pretty sure the 2 PRO is only going to work with a 4 ohm or 2 ohm load.

its a 4 ohm

Marton · #4 08-22-2011, 05:21 PM

Why not keeping the 5-Pro, by the way ?

Gearhead17 · #5 08-22-2011, 05:23 PM

You are good with either head.

I used to have a 4 PRO and got rid of it because I constantly fought with the tone controls. The head had too much low end to deal with and I constantly decreased it in a live setting. I also did not like the midrange clarity; never felt like the sound of my strings came through very well. I currently use a Carvin BX1200. I get any variety of clean solid-state tone along with excellent clarity. Massive power too.

It's up to you. SVT 2 PRO is an 80lb head.

lyes4string · #6 08-22-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marton

Why not keeping the 5-Pro, by the way ?

Plan on keeping the 5 pro just looking into having another rig

ButtUglyJeff · #7 08-22-2011, 06:01 PM

I'd also suggest trying the 7 Pro...

bassguppy · #8 08-22-2011, 06:38 PM

I have a mid 90's SVT2PRO and it is a beast. I just picked it up a couple months ago and am not regretting it one bit. Totally thrilled and I find myself with a big grin during gigs. It's loud and gives something that nothing else gives in tone.

lyes4string · #9 08-22-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bassguppy

I have a mid 90's SVT2PRO and it is a beast. I just picked it up a couple months ago and am not regretting it one bit. Totally thrilled and I find myself with a big grin during gigs. It's loud and gives something that nothing else gives in tone.

I've heard many things like this which makes me at least want to try it out so I will def be looking into it.

kosmicwizard · #10 08-22-2011, 11:36 PM

I have an SVT II (non-pro) and use Ampeg Cabs, but I have never owned a 410HLF. Try putting the HLF on top of the 810 with the 2 Pro (since it can go down to 2 Ohms) and see how that sounds to your ears. Cheers.

JimmyM · #11 08-23-2011, 12:27 AM

2 Pro has power tubes, so naturally it wins all. Nothing wrong with the 4 Pro either...if you like the tighter sound of a lead sled like your 5 Pro, it's great. 7 Pro is extremely worthy as well...my favorite of the hybrid/SS Ampegs.

Joe Murray · #12 08-23-2011, 09:16 AM

I use to (well, still do) have an Ampeg SVT III for my 410HLF, until I found the Mark Bass LMII. Lighter and cleaner sounding....my SVTIII is just collecting dust now.

JMac4strngr · #13 08-23-2011, 12:07 PM

I voted for the 2 Pro, because it's all tube. I haven't ever used the 2 Pro, but IME with My SVT classic and V4, it should sound excellent......

Buster Brown · #14 08-23-2011, 12:12 PM

Yep, you won't go wrong with either amp....but tubes will probably win out

I absolutely LOVED my PR8X10 (back in the day) but DAMN!!! It was a heavy SOB (something like 218 pounds) and was a bugger to move....

Congrats!!

lyes4string · #15 08-24-2011, 04:55 PM

so i was searchin craigslist for a head to trow on my new pr410hlf as stated in this thread and found and offer that i thought i couldnt pass up even if i didnt need it. i picked up an ampeg bxt115 and bxt410 with an ampeg b2r head all for $650. so i basicaly want your opinions, did i get a deal?

Gearhead17 · #16 08-24-2011, 05:08 PM

A deal? Yes. As far as what everything cost new and the price you got now, definitely a steal. The BXT 410 is really good and so is the BXT15 - when you use them separately. Put together, not so great. The B-2R head is not very good at all....some will argue it's great, but after using it myself - I know it's junk.

I would not even bother using the BXT 410 and the PR 410 together - two completely different voicings on the cabs. You can try it of course, but I do not feel the end result will too great. You at least have options on tone......but since you did not get any identical cabs here, I think you just accumulated more bass gear. Which is cool if you have the space to put it and no wife around to complain.....

Not sure why you want our opinions on your recent purchase. If you like it, need it, and will use it, who cares what I think?

lyes4string · #17 08-24-2011, 05:21 PM

Don't really know what I'll do with the gear honestly. I'm getting ready to record with my band wanted as many options as possible for the studio. I'm tired of every engineer trying to get me to just run di when I record. I figured use the gear for trades or what not in the future if nothing else. I got the room to store it too so really not losing much except money at the moment.

Gearhead17 · #18 08-24-2011, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lyes4string

Don't really know what I'll do with the gear honestly. I'm getting ready to record with my band wanted as many options as possible for the studio. I'm tired of every engineer trying to get me to just run di when I record. I figured use the gear for trades or what not in the future if nothing else. I got the room to store it too so really not losing much except money at the moment.

Ah, putting that way, I see your point. You will have a lot of options to work with.

When you record, I always suggest recording as many channels as possible bass. One channel DI, another being one miked 410, the other mic being on the 15 and so on. Distortion on one speaker, clean on the others. Use the DI for just clean low end and the 410's for growly mid range. Always give yourself a bunch of options so you can sit down and blend all of the signals together or just use one sound. You are bound to get something you like. Last time I recorded, I had two mics to work with and the clean DI signal of my bass. We ended up blending them together in various ways on the songs - whatever worked for the song. I got tones I liked and everything was great in the end. I also had an engineer who was a bass player and talked to me like a person. I was not treated like - "Bass? Who listens to that? Excuse me good sir, everyone does!" If you get into that situation, get a different guy.

lyes4string · #19 08-25-2011, 03:10 PM

That's pretty much the ideas I was having for recording and since this time around I know the engineer I can get away with whatever I want.

AlexanderB · #20 08-25-2011, 03:14 PM

I would go for preamp + PA power amp. More reliable and more flexible?