Quick question on this possible set up.

[GingerConor]

Hi, just wondering if this set up will work as I'm a little confused about how to set this up.

I want to use my Avid eleven rack plugged into a Peavey 1600 powering a Hartke 115 B XL and a Hartke 4.5 B XL. Are these all compatible? Also, do I plug my stereo outputs of the eleven rack into seperate channels of the Peavey and then have one output to one cab and the other channel to the other cab?

Any help is appreciated.

Conor

[GingerConor]

Bump? Please help.

[Nev375]

Yeah that will work.

[B-string]

Why would it not work? Straight forward set up.

[BassmanPaul]

It will work but why hobble yourself with dissimilar cabinets?

Edit: Do a search on the subject of a 4x10 paired with a 1x15. It really is a lousy match.

[Downunderwonder]

At least you can control the power to each cab. Between likely power handling difference and sensitivity the ultimate volume achievable won't be much more than the 4x10 can do alone.

That leaves tone, maybe you like it. Getting the 4x10 up is good for hearing yourself. You'll be needing earplugs or going deaf.

[BassmanPaul]

Not disagreeing with our friend from NZ, but if the 15 is on the top of the stack, any cries of pain from it will be more easily heard. On the bottom it will be drowned out by the much more capable 4x10.

Edit: Whether on top or on the bottom, the 15 will always be a weak link and subject to damage.

[GingerConor]

Ok, thanks guys. Would you suggest a second 4x10?

[Downunderwonder]

2 15's isn't as loud but carries tone better when you have no PA support.

[GingerConor]

Is two 4x10s a good option? I will definitely have PA support anytime im gigging this rig.

[Oobly]

A single 410 may be enough, just run one channel of the IPR and the mono out from the Eleven Rack. Try it like that first, if you want more, then a 2nd identical 410 will do nicely.

It's worth trying it with the single 15, too. If that sounds better than the 410, but isn't loud enough, go for a pair of 15's.

A pair of 15's has better dispersion than a 410 or pair of 410's.

[GingerConor]

Thanks, what do you mean by dispersion btw, also, quick question about cables. I know I need a speakon cable to go from the peavey to the cab but do I need one for going from the 11r to the Peavey?

Thanks.

[Downunderwonder]

Identical 4x10 please.

Baer in mind a lot of smaller than stadium or outdoors gigs with 8 tens interfere with front of house so much that the bass is turned off. How many are you playing to?

[GingerConor]

Couple hundred, medium/small sized venues. So you're suggesting two 4x10s over a 4x10 and a 1x15?

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by GingerConor

Couple hundred, medium/small sized venues. So you're suggesting two 4x10s over a 4x10 and a 1x15?

Yes two 410's is better than a 410 + 115.

[Downunderwonder]

Originally Posted by GingerConor

Thanks, what do you mean by dispersion btw, also, quick question about cables. I know I need a speakon cable to go from the peavey to the cab but do I need one for going from the 11r to the Peavey?

Thanks.

Dispersion is the quality of spreading sound out from the cab. An ideal sound source sends out all frequencies in all directions equally.

Real speakers are very far from such an "ideal", how far short depends mainly on what we call beaming.

Above the "beam frequency" the sounds of the near side of the speaker and far side of the speaker arrive at the listener so far out of phase that they annihilate, unless listener is located in the beam squarely in front of the cab.

4x10 6x10 8x10 all beam like a ****, behaving like a very much larger single driver the width of the extremities of the tens, and then there's the comb filtering below the beaming frequency. 15's aren't that great either but a damn sight better than the fridges.

Cables should all be speakon and cabs should be at least wired in phase.

[CL400Peavey]

Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Cables between the amp and speakers should all be speakon and cabs should be at least wired in phase. Cables between your pre amp and power amp should be insturment or XLR

Added some clarification.

[Downunderwonder]

Originally Posted by GingerConor

Couple hundred, medium/small sized venues. So you're suggesting two 4x10s over a 4x10 and a 1x15?

At that rate two 15's is definitely what I'd suggest. You won't be in the PA.

Even better, 4 tens in a vertical column of 2x 2x10 will cover 200 just fine. Should you go all pro with PA support it makes a fine stage monitor which you have to turn well down to work for 200.

[GingerConor]

Ok great, thanks alot guys!

[GingerConor]

One last question, are 8 ohm speakers better or worse than 4 ohm?