rank loudness of common cab/driver configs

scottfeldstein · #1 11-19-2012, 01:03 PM

Ok, this is kind of dumb--or at least of dubious utility. But I want to know which cab is going to do more volume. All things being equal (which of course they aren't).

I'll take a stab, from loudest to quietest.

8x10
6x10
2x15
4x10
3x10
2x12
2x10
1x15
1x12
1x10

Again, I'm not looking for a 400 comment thread about how some cab manufacturers tune their cabs differently than others or how Eminence Kappalite Neo 10s have more x-max than some other brand of driver. Nor am I looking for a thread about the subjective qualities of volume or the vagaries of EQing.

All things being equal, which cab is going to be louder given the same twist of the volume knob?

Mykk · #2 11-19-2012, 01:10 PM

With all things being equal. My vote for would be the cab that has most speaker area moving the most air. The 810.

I will say, in perceived volume. My Mesa Powerhouse 2x15" "sounds" louder than my Fender PRO 810.

scottfeldstein · #3 11-19-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykk

With all things being equal. My vote for would be the cab that has most speaker area moving the most air.

Makes perfect sense. Do you think I have them ranked in the right order according to that criteria?

Downunderwonder · #4 11-19-2012, 01:19 PM

You called it, even spelled dubious correctly. Welcome to your very own 30 pager.

Can you indicate which factors you would like to remain equal across 10's 12's and 15's?

HolmeBass · #5 11-19-2012, 01:23 PM

Swapped 2x12 and 3x10, which is just my opinion, all things being equal

8x10
6x10
2x15
4x10
2x12
3x10
2x10
1x15
1x12
1x10

**CL400Peavey** · #6 11-19-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

1515/66/1
8x10
1212/6/1
15/6
6x10
2x15
4x10
12/6/1
3x10
2x12
2x10
1x15
1x12
1x10

Now we are talking.

scottfeldstein · #7 11-19-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

You called it, even spelled dubious correctly. Welcome to your very own 30 pager.

Heh. Yep, probably.

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Originally Posted by Downunderwonder

Can you indicate which factors you would like to remain equal across 10's 12's and 15's?

I'm thinking things like, cab make/model/tuning/materials, driver make/model...

scottfeldstein · #8 11-19-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CL400Peavey

Now we are talking.

Agreed. But that's taking away "all things being equal."

Passinwind · #9 11-19-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

Agreed. But that's taking away "all things being equal."

Pesky reality...

scottfeldstein · #10 11-19-2012, 01:40 PM

I played a fF 12/6 cube this weekend. I'd forgo any cab built by any commercial manufacturer to get a pair of those.

musicman666 · #11 11-19-2012, 02:10 PM

I would swap 2x10 and 115....MO

**CL400Peavey** · #12 11-19-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

I played a fF 12/6 cube this weekend. I'd forgo any cab built by any commercial manufacturer to get a pair of those.

If you have the right application of power, the 12/6 is almost impossible to beat for sound/pound.

musicman666 · #13 11-19-2012, 02:15 PM

Hmmmmm...Theres no 4x12...

scottfeldstein · #14 11-19-2012, 02:22 PM

You think? A 2x10 cab has two motors and 157 square inches of cone area. A 1x15 cab has one motor and 176 square inches of cone area. So, bigger cone on its one driver, but it's still just one driver. Not sure.

eyeballkid · #15 11-19-2012, 02:22 PM

Id say:
610x412
610x215
415
810
610
412
all else is pointless

dhsierra1 · #16 11-19-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by musicman666

Hmmmmm...Theres no 4x12...

saw Oteil Burbridge play through one of these with Tedeschi Trucks earlier this year:

http://www.aguilaramp.com/products_cabinets_db412.htm

Edit: my bad, I see you mean it wasn't on the OP's list........

scottfeldstein · #17 11-19-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eyeballkid

Id say:
610x412
610x215
415
810
610
412
all else is pointless

Except the "all else" is where most of us live! I'd be willing to be 90% of all TBers are using cabs smaller than the ones you've listed there.

dhsierra1 · #18 11-19-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein

You think? A 2x10 cab has two motors and 157 square inches of cone area. A 1x15 cab has one motor and 176 square inches of cone area. So, bigger cone on its one driver, but it's still just one driver. Not sure.

displacement is what you're looking for. The average bass guitar 15" has around 400 cc if it has an Xmax of 5 mm.

Two 10s at 4 mm (pretty typical) are going to weigh in around 300 cc.

Fro 20 · #19 11-19-2012, 02:27 PM

or 18's

"All things being equal" meaning, if all those cabs had the same sensitivity?

scottfeldstein · #20 11-19-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dhsierra1

displacement is what you're looking for. The average bass guitar 15" has around 400 cc if it has an Xmax of 5 mm.

Two 10s at 4 mm (pretty typical) are going to weigh in around 300 cc.

Yes, this! Thank you! So on that basis the 15 does edge out the 210. Interesting.