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12-03-2010, 09:35 PM
| | Registered User Endorsing Artist: Ernie Ball MusicMan Guitars | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New York and Philadelphia | | | Replaced Speaker: Lost all the LOW END
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Hey Everyone,
I have the AVATAR 2x10 Neo.
One of the speakers blew a while back, so I ordered a replacement speaker from AVATAR.
Took out the blown one, connected the Speaker exactly the way it was connected.
Plugged in my iPod and ran some music through it for few days to 'break it in'..
I noticed the music sounded Damn Thin coming out of the iPod..SO I boosted the hell out of the EQ...to give it some bass...
Tried it with my bass, but man it sounded raw.
Tonight at the gig..I plugged in and wow...NOTHING in terms of low end.
I've been using this for a while and what I LOVE about the Cab IS the LOW end Wallop...
I plugged into my Sans AMP to juice the lows and wow..Got a bit distorted...
could this be out of Phase?
Any ideas.
Go easy, I'm no engineer!
Thanks
M
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12-03-2010, 09:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Palm Coast, Florida | | | That's what it sounds like.
Try switching the positive & negative wires on the speaker you just installed, and try it again.
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12-03-2010, 09:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | | If the cab has a 1/4" jack plug a cord in and touch the minus of the battery to the sleeve and (intermittently) the plus to the tip on the cord plug and make sure both drivers move out when the battery is connected.
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12-04-2010, 01:16 AM
| | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | yep, definitely out of phase. or the replacement's bad. but i'd bet money it's out of phase.
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12-04-2010, 02:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA | | | You can check raw speaker phasing with a 9 Volt battery. Attach insulated alligator clips to the end of a battery wiring harness. Clip one lead to a speaker terminal, and briefly touch the other lead to the other speaker terminal. The speaker cone will move forward or backward. All speakers' cones should move in the same direction for the same connection polarity. | 
12-04-2010, 05:00 AM
|  | Hey, what does this knob do? | | Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Hampshire | | | Sometimes a driver will come through with its voice coil wired backwards to the binding posts on the basket. (I mean "backwards" relative to the manufacturer's convention.) Rare, but it happens. Might have been a recone and it was someone's first day of OJT and the expert slipped out back for five minutes for a quick smoke. | 
12-04-2010, 08:17 AM
| | Registered User Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Hampshire | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassmunnky could this be out of Phase?
| It's reverse polarity, which is 180 degrees out of phase. | 
12-04-2010, 08:43 AM
|  | http://greenboy.us/forum/ greenboy designs: fEARful, bassic, dually, crazy88 etc | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: remote mountain cabin Montana | | | Enough ... with ... the ... PHASE ... already People in this forum sure do like to toss the terms phase and phasing around a lot. They must really like the sound of it. Real futuristic and techie and all.  | 
12-04-2010, 09:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | I'm lucky I guess - I can speak both phase AND polarity so can comunicate with miost anybody  . 
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12-04-2010, 09:39 AM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | | You don't even need alligator clips - you can easily touch both terminals on a 9V battery with the tip and sleeve of a 1/4" plug on a guitar cord.
And it sure sound like it is out of phase (More phaser, Scotty!)
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12-04-2010, 09:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NE CT | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gio S You don't even need alligator clips - you can easily touch both terminals on a 9V battery with the tip and sleeve of a 1/4" plug on a guitar cord. | Must be an echo in here  .
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12-04-2010, 10:36 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadkill Must be an echo in here  . | Nah! It's the moist anybody!
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