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Old 09-07-2011, 07:56 AM
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replacement fan for ibanez promethean?

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I am considering replacing the built-in fan with a quieter model. Ibanez seems to have replaced the former fan models with stronger ones, because the current models have quiet audible fan noise, ehich the "older" ones did not have (due to all the posts here) And: they had heat issues with auto power-off which I think Ibanez adressed with a stronger fan which kicks in quite soon.

The fan is approx. 3,7 cm / 1,45 inch in diameter.

1. Do you know which fan-models in this size are quiet ones and useful as a replacement?

2. I did not open the amp.
Does some of you know, if the fan is accessible and replaceable without too much an effort?


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Old 09-07-2011, 09:59 AM
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What's a little fan noise??? If you replace the fan it could well be noisier than the existing fan. On stage or at rehearsal it won't be heard.
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:24 PM
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What's a little fan noise??? If you replace the fan it could well be noisier than the existing fan. On stage or at rehearsal it won't be heard.
it can be heard quite well with practicing levels. I personally hate that sound. Markbass fans e.g. are definitely less audible. So the fan noise-level of a Markbass head would be acceptable for me.
(But Markbass has no amps in this sound/level/price region offering line-in and headphone-out. So I will be satisfied with a softer fan-noise)

Does anybody know where or how to find such a fan ??
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Old 09-07-2011, 02:53 PM
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How to determine the fan size: open up the case, measure the fan size, read the label on it to determine specs.

I think fans are usually specced by their diameter dimensions I think. Newegg.com - Computer Case Fans, Case Fans
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Old 09-07-2011, 03:03 PM
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My experience - fans are rated by size and airflow. Power might be included as well so you can size the power supplies but for a replacement fan, you care about size and airflow. Specs include noise ratings but its tough to compare them between manufacturers because there's no standard and everyone wants to appear to be quieter than the competition.

That said, noise and air flow generally go hand in hand so for the same airflow (usually measured in cubic feet per minute or the metric equivalent for you european types), you probably won't get any quieter going with an alternative manufacturer. If you go with a quieter fan, you're likely to get one with lower airflow which will cause the electronics to get less cooling. Less cooling could lead to heat damage of the power transistors in your amp, then again, it might not depending on how much design tolerance there is.

I suspect the engineers allow high margins for cooling needs in part because fans age, in part because cooling fins get dirty, and in part because amps need to survive in warm environments.

If your fan is causing noise in your signal chain (I've had this happen), a new fan should cure the problem (it did in my case). As contacts wear, the EMI from the fan will increase. Same for excess mechanical noise due to bearing wear or fan blade wear. If you just want to reduce the flow noise in the fan, you're probably going to have to go to a lower flow rate. If you do, try not to go too low on the flow rate and check the temp of the amp often when you run it the first couple of times. It's a risk to the electronics and without knowing the particulars or having a lot of experience with your specific equipment, it is impossible to know whether or not you'll have an overheating problem with a lower flow rate fan.
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