Replacement speakers for Aguilar s210

[Nitrojunkie2]

I ruined another cab the other night at band practice.
This one was an Aguilar s210, 250w, 8ohms.
I've already cooked a Celestion 15", 4ohm with the same head, a gallien-krueger 1001rb-mk2. I think the problem is 700 watts coming from the head, speakers just can't handle it.

Are the aguilar replacement speakers at $99 per speaker a good deal?
I paid $190 for the cab used about two months ago.

Are there other speakers that will work in the same cab? Like maybe some neos?


Next step in the plan is haul both cabs to practice, a 400w g-k 115, and the re-speakered Aguilar cab.

[Bassmec]

Originally Posted by Nitrojunkie2

I ruined another cab the other night at band practice.
This one was an Aguilar s210, 250w, 8ohms.
I've already cooked a Celestion 15", 4ohm with the same head, a gallien-krueger 1001rb-mk2. I think the problem is 700 watts coming from the head, speakers just can't handle it.

Are the aguilar replacement speakers at $99 per speaker a good deal?
I paid $190 for the cab used about two months ago.

Are there other speakers that will work in the same cab? Like maybe some neos?


Next step in the plan is haul both cabs to practice, a 400w g-k 115, and the re-speakered Aguilar cab.

I would imagine its what your bass sound actually really sounds like that's responsible for your loudspeaker failures.
Perhaps you don't have enough surviving speakers connected at any one time to clearly hear when they are being stressed IE farting out on the low notes.
Replace the damaged drivers with what was originally fitted, perhaps get them re-coned.
Then divide the thermal wattage rating of your speakers by two and build a speaker rig based on those figures at your amps rating, respecting the amps minimum ohmage, then your amp won't blow the drivers even if you drive it into heavy clipping. At least it will sound better than the Brappp! And fart of speaker X Lim.

[Nitrojunkie2]

I think what you're saying is, get a combination of cabs that can handle 1400 watts.
Does that sound right?
I'm not ready to get into building my own speaker cabs yet.

[Nitrojunkie2]

I had one speaker re-coned and the other reinforced as the paper was about to go. The repair guy charged me $50 total for both jobs. He really likes Eminence speakers, not because they're good, but because they keep him in business. Hmm. Only one speaker was really shot, but since they were wired in series, neither was working.
Problem solved I guess.

[BogeyBass]

Its just the sensitivity of a 210 is not very high, so you pushing them hard to be heard over a band. The current level of your band is pushing your speakers beyond its limits in both sitiuations with a single 15 or single 210.

Real world power for a 210 is not going to be more than 120 to 150 watts. before 10% distortion and actual damage is not to far from that.
a single 15 roughly them same

Just double your speaker load with matching cabinets a 4ohm 15 and 8ohm 210 is not a good match as a load or a reproducer.

buy another 210 or buy another 115 but it needs to be 8ohm 15 not 4, since now a pair will be 2ohms and not sure if your amp is 2ohm stable. likewise a 4 ohm load combined with 8ohm is 2.6 ohms so again the combination is too low and still lack sensitivity. and the mismatched pair will have phase cancellation causing peaks or dips in the response.

not really a fan of 210's but if you did buy another matching unit and then stacked them vertical, power handling would be much better and your overall presence would be much better.
being both 8ohms you will now have a proper 4ohm load with the pair.

be careful with over EQ 10's dont go much deeper than 60hz and cranking the 45hz bass band might sound great at lower levels...but its just going to kill your speakers at band levels.

otherwise if you still want a compact rig stay away from 210 and move to a 212 the sensitivity and power handling is higher and will get you where you need to be.

[Nitrojunkie2]

My band practice plan is to use a G-K 115 400w 8ohm and a cab with a 600w 8ohm JBL speaker in it. I'll save the 210 for at home, or sell it and get something else that can handle the amp's power output. Or get a less powerful amp..

[RickenBoogie]

...or cut the low bands on your amp's eq, and dis-engage any low boosts. You do not have enough spkr for the amount of volume you want, so best bet is sell it all and get a BIG cab.