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12-30-2011, 09:48 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Va. | | | Replacing speakers in my Avatar B212 NEO
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I am thinking of replacing the speakers in my B212. I don't know how it happened but it sounds like one of therm is blown. My cab is an 8 ohm cab .. so does that mean I replace it with 2 8 ohm speakers or should I replace it with 16 ohm speakers? I understand how this work with cabs .. but with speakers I am still a bit fuzzy and I don't want to buy the wrong thing. How does it work with wattage when replacing 2 speakers in a cab? Would two speakers rated at 150w add up to a 300w capable cab?
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12-30-2011, 10:01 PM
|  | "Shutup and play your guitar!!!" | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Charleston | | | You would need 2 X 4ohm in series or 2 x 16ohm in parallel.
If you have the bread I would go with drivers like the Faital Pro.
I recently built a 2x12 cab build a little bigger the the genz benz 212 neo and used 2 of the W12N8-350s and they sound awesome. just my $.02
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12-30-2011, 10:09 PM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Beautiful Central, NY | | | Why not just contact Avatar directly and get yourself an exact replacement? Should be painless. They're exceptional.
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12-31-2011, 06:10 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Providence, Rhode Island | | I replaced the 12's in my GK neo 2x12 with Faital neo's 12FH500 from US speaker, Al who works there is great to deal with and very knowledgeable and can help you with your 16 or 8ohm questions. The faital's are awesome and take anything I can throw at them. I went from an 8 ohm 600wt cab to a 4 ohm 1000wt cab and I am now able to take full advantage of the power from Thunderfunk 750-A. What type of head are you using and what is the 8ohm/4ohm power rating? http://usspeaker.com/homepage.htm
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12-31-2011, 06:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern Va. | | | I'm using a 9.0. I am thinking of grabing a 900 in the upcoming post NAAM selloff. Both.heads are 500@8 & 900@4.
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12-31-2011, 07:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Providence, Rhode Island | | | With either 500 or 900 wts, you really should get some speaker advice from someone like Al or another speaker distributer, about what works best with that type of power. I'm sure you don't want to be replacing speakers again. I like to bring the 2x12 to as many situations as I can so I prefer to use the 4ohm power from my amp, so thats why I went with the 4ohm speaker load in my 2x12. My amp does go down to 2ohm so adding another bottom for bigger venues is no problem.
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12-31-2011, 07:48 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Seattle, WA | | Why not just take them and have them tested and recone the one that is blown?
For example: Authorized Speaker Repair Center |
12-31-2011, 09:57 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by dannster  | This^
First make sure they are in fact blown and your problem doesn't lie elsewhere.
Avatar uses a 4ohm OEM version of the deltaliteII in those cabs. With current neo prices, a recone should run less than 1/2 the cost of a new driver. Assuming yours is neo. If not, it would use a 4ohm OEM version of a delta12 or delta12LF. In either case, reconing is always cheaper. |
12-31-2011, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by will33 This^
First make sure they are in fact blown and your problem doesn't lie elsewhere.
Avatar uses a 4ohm OEM version of the deltaliteII in those cabs. With current neo prices, a recone should run less than 1/2 the cost of a new driver. Assuming yours is neo. If not, it would use a 4ohm OEM version of a delta12 or delta12LF. In either case, reconing is always cheaper. | Agreed... but if one can one ( has the means ) one should upgrade the drivers. There is a reason those things are blown. 
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12-31-2011, 10:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin,tx | | Quote:
Originally Posted by otherclef Agreed... but if one can one ( has the means ) one should upgrade the drivers. There is a reason those things are blown. | Yeah, upgrading's an option. Avatars OEM's can take a goodly amount of power in the lows, good excursion but IMO, they give up too much response higher up to achieve it. I have have a pair of 4ohm Avatar 12's and 8ohm stock spec eminence dlII2512's to compare. That's what I hear anyway. |
12-31-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sav'nBass I'm using a 9.0. I am thinking of grabing a 900 in the upcoming post NAAM selloff. Both.heads are 500@4 & 900@8. | Other way around.
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12-31-2011, 11:46 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada | | | Shoe horning any driver into some kind of box is not how you design speaker systems. All you get is a crapshoot. Might sound good but more likely won't!
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12-31-2011, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul Shoe horning any driver into some kind of box is not how you design speaker systems. All you get is a crapshoot. Might sound good but more likely won't! | True. For reference, the Avatar box is 3.9 cu.ft. tuned around 48 hz. |
12-31-2011, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BassmanPaul Shoe horning any driver into some kind of box is not how you design speaker systems. All you get is a crapshoot. Might sound good but more likely won't! | Agreed, that’s why it's important to consult with someone who can help us layman make the right choices with the right speaker based on the size of the box the style we play and tone we’re looking for. This will help you avoid the crapshoot but allows you to upgrade your cab the way that most manufacturers find financially impossible to do! And while you’re in there check for proper bracing and insulation.
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01-01-2012, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Munjibunga Other way around. | Yeah ... that's what I said ..   ( DOLP!!) | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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