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12-09-2012, 05:00 PM
|  | Your Obedient Bassist® | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Baltimore,MD USA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mbelue  I know this is true for alot of people, but as a technophile it saddens me.
Smaller with equivalent volume and tone cannot be emphasized enough. The "look" is a terrible excuse for any music equipment, if its the only excuse.
Still everybody has their thing. If you can rock it, rock it. | I'm not a huge technophile. I'm just trying to solve space and weight problems. Personally, I can't wait until you can wear the rig around your waist and sound like a jet taking off. I try to follow the wisdom of an engineer friend of mine who once advised me thusly: Accept EVERY mechanical advantage. Saves toil and trouble, from what I've ever seen.
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12-09-2012, 07:37 PM
|  | Cort bassist by obligation | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Florida | | Quote:
Originally Posted by mbelue I know this is true for alot of people, but as a technophile it saddens me.
Smaller with equivalent volume and tone cannot be emphasized enough. The "look" is a terrible excuse for any music equipment, if its the only excuse.
Still everybody has their thing. If you can rock it, rock it. | My gig requires the big goofy cabs. It's part of the show, unfortunately.
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12-09-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Right, now get up to the 4th floor on that casino boat with an upright and those 212's.  | I dont play upright so thats not an issue and the cab is only 50lbs
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12-09-2012, 08:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Bend, Wisconsin | | | This is as good a thread as any to announce that after months of whining about it, I finally got rid of my 410. I'll never own another one. Never, ever, ever. They're too heavy, too big and too much of the output is at ankle level. I'm keeping the 212, at least for now. It's 50 pounds--not great, but a lot better than 75. I'm going to try out a 15 at 40 pounds, see how I like that.
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12-09-2012, 10:23 PM
| | Your Obedient Bassist® | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Baltimore,MD USA | | | One things is for sure: Things ain't the way they used to be.
The big cab still performs, but it's totally optional.
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12-10-2012, 12:21 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: West Bend, Wisconsin | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward G. Things ain't the way they used to be. | But things are definitely more like they are now than they ever were before. 
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12-10-2012, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein But things are definitely more like they are now than they ever were before. | And retro aint what it used to be  |
12-10-2012, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by scottfeldstein This is as good a thread as any to announce that after months of whining about it, I finally got rid of my 410. I'll never own another one. Never, ever, ever. They're too heavy, too big and too much of the output is at ankle level. I'm keeping the 212, at least for now. It's 50 pounds--not great, but a lot better than 75. I'm going to try out a 15 at 40 pounds, see how I like that. | My 410 hasn't even been plugged in since 2008. I should dig it out and at least fire it up. As 410's go it sounds quite good, despite being an old Tube Works cab with ports directly behind the speakers. But man, they are no fun to move around. An 810 actually moves easier for me, except for stairs 
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12-10-2012, 05:58 AM
| | Cort bassist by obligation | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Florida | | | Well, I thought some more about my "dilema". I think for now, I will get the Eden repaired, and get a smaller case. I'm trying to find someone local, because I'm not thrilled about shipping that monster.
I get my GK MB200 by week's end. It will be fun to try out.
I did really like that Markbass Littlemark 800 I tried this weekend.
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12-10-2012, 06:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bethel CT | | Quote:
Originally Posted by scottfeldstein This is as good a thread as any to announce that after months of whining about it, I finally got rid of my 410. I'll never own another one. Never, ever, ever. They're too heavy, too big and too much of the output is at ankle level. I'm keeping the 212, at least for now. It's 50 pounds--not great, but a lot better than 75. I'm going to try out a 15 at 40 pounds, see how I like that. | My old SWR 410 was 97lbs ! I miss the punch it had though. Id like to try out the golight series. Wonder if they have the same punch.
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12-10-2012, 06:11 AM
| | Cort bassist by obligation | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Florida | | | Just a thought, a lot of Markbass products only have one speaker out. I assume that they engineered he head to support one cab? Or do they intend for the user to diasy chain it to another cab?
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12-10-2012, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 I have owned the full on racked head for a while (amp, tuner, Furman). I had some issues with my Eden head, and it needs repair. Not bad for 12 years with no problems.
In any event, I've talked to some great folks on here about amp ideas.
Many have suggested looking at micro amps. I think this is a great idea, and may allow me to pack my amps in my rolling suit case.
My idea:
Sell my amp, once serviced and working 100%
Sell my Korg DTR-1
Sell my Furman PL-Plus
Sell my SKB 8 space rack
Buy a Genz Benz 9.0 Shuttle or Streamliner
Buy a GK MB200 (backup)
Buy a pedal tuner and add it to my board.
This would save me weight and the bulk of the rack head.
Is there anything I should be cautious of before considering such a bold move?   | That is exactly what I did! I dumped my rack in favor of going all lightweight. I use a Streamliner and I have a Korg Pitchblack tuner and a Markbass Compressore pedal. In fact I keep the Compressore on top of my cabinet next to the Streamliner. The only thing I have on the floor is the tuner.
As far as the tone between the Shuttle and the Streamliner it depends on what you want. Shuttle more Modern - Stramliner more Vintage. Not that either can't do the other, but that's what they are geared for.
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12-10-2012, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 My gig requires the big goofy cabs. It's part of the show, unfortunately. | I hear that , but I have to ask. What requires it? Is it some kind of back line banner, draped over your cabs? Or maybe an elaborate gymnastic demonstration?
All joking aside, I am curious. |
12-10-2012, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TinIndian That is exactly what I did! I dumped my rack in favor of going all lightweight. I use a Streamliner and I have a Korg Pitchblack tuner and a Markbass Compressore pedal. In fact I keep the Compressore on top of my cabinet next to the Streamliner. The only thing I have on the floor is the tuner.
As far as the tone between the Shuttle and the Streamliner it depends on what you want. Shuttle more Modern - Stramliner more Vintage. Not that either can't do the other, but that's what they are geared for. | In your view, would you say my Eden head is more similar to the shuttle or streamliner?
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12-10-2012, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mbelue I hear that , but I have to ask. What requires it? Is it some kind of back line banner, draped over your cabs? Or maybe an elaborate gymnastic demonstration?
All joking aside, I am curious. | Does this help? https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/...type=3&theater
I am forced to play a bass that is shaped like an axe and wear spandex! Everything is for "show" in this band. Thus why I need to keep a "stack".
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12-10-2012, 06:29 AM
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12-10-2012, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Sav'nBass If you can check out a SL900 and/or a Shuttlemax .. You won't regret it. | I will do some investigating. Both stores near me carried no Genzbenz products on their sales floor.
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12-10-2012, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bassgod76 | Can't see it but from the name sir-KISS I'll take that to be more than enough reason to go with the show. Sounds like fun! |
12-10-2012, 07:12 AM
| | Cort bassist by obligation | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Florida | | Here you go. 
It has it's pros and cons, but it is a lot of fun.
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12-11-2012, 10:33 PM
| | | | The world needs two more of a good thing.
Baltic Birch and Genz Benz.
I have been rethinking my rig. I have my NEOX Combo and an external 112T, looking for another so I can leave one at each Band Location and combine them for larger gigs and when I create my Control Rack Based upon Entwistles final Gear.
The main object is really to get a whole bunch of 12AX7's together and having a Tube Choir.
If the nut Guitard in Knoxville Fired me for being too loud with my little 2x12's against his three stacks, 850w driving 4x12's should be a State Industrial Code Violation, probably something about improper disposal of explosives.
Keep your rack for performances. Get the smaller rig for backup parts and rehersals. Let the Show be the show. Empty the drivers out of one of the cabinets and turn the amp up a bit more.
Since you have the GK, you are done. Mount it in a drawer so you can whip it out and take it home at will, but is handy on stage. That will fill 3U. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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