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12-17-2010, 12:29 PM
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ok to start no this thread is not about the band nofx:P im trying to get some distortion going and i was wondering how to get it to fuzz up? ive tried the obvious turn the tube tone up, but that just gives me a bit of crisp on the edges. |
12-17-2010, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Soverntear  ok to start no this thread is not about the band nofx:P im trying to get some distortion going and i was wondering how to get it to fuzz up? ive tried the obvious turn the tube tone up, but that just gives me a bit of crisp on the edges. |  If you turn the tube tone up past noon, you will literally get buzz saw distortion, for better or worse.
IMO, if you are hearing 'crisp on the edges' you are turning the wrong knob. Spend a bit of time with the manual  |
12-17-2010, 01:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada | | | Are you sure that you're not in "shift" mode? |
12-17-2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung If you turn the tube tone up past noon, you will literally get buzz saw distortion, for better or worse.
IMO, if you are hearing 'crisp on the edges' you are turning the wrong knob. Spend a bit of time with the manual | im turning the one labeled "tube tone" CRANKED. ill read up on the feature while im at the laundry mat today. |
12-17-2010, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Soverntear im turning the one labeled "tube tone" CRANKED. ill read up on the feature while im at the laundry mat today. | Makes no sense. Per the above, if you are in shift mode, that knob is post EQ volume, and won't impact your tone. The impact of the Tubetone is very extreme at high levels... you will even get feeback and fullout screaming grind at extreme levels. If you don't hear that, and are sure that you are operating the right control while not in shift mode, then something is wrong.
At lower levels, the tubetone kind of warms and compresses the tone... a little less low end, a little less treble, and some nice mild break-up type tone up to around 10 o'clock. Then, it really starts to snarl.
The 'crispness around the edges' is actually the opposite of what that control does, so hopefully, you were in shift mode or something. |
12-17-2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung Makes no sense. Per the above, if you are in shift mode, that knob is post EQ volume, and won't impact your tone. The impact of the Tubetone is very extreme at high levels... you will even get feeback and fullout screaming grind at extreme levels. If you don't hear that, and are sure that you are operating the right control while not in shift mode, then something is wrong.
At lower levels, the tubetone kind of warms and compresses the tone... a little less low end, a little less treble, and some nice mild break-up type tone up to around 10 o'clock. Then, it really starts to snarl.
The 'crispness around the edges' is actually the opposite of what that control does, so hopefully, you were in shift mode or something. |
im going to go test it now. double checking im not in shift. |
12-17-2010, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Soverntear | Bummer... something seems wrong then. That top clip is pretty close to the tone I get at 3 o'clock... if you crank it all the way up, it is pure distortion. I guess you can hear how much more the Stingray distorts due to its hotter output than a passive J. So, make sure you have your input gain set optimally (to just below the clip light coming on) and that you have the rest of the EQ neutral (noon) when you are testing it out. Also, make sure you don't have the compressor set at a high level. |
12-17-2010, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung Bummer... something seems wrong then. That top clip is pretty close to the tone I get at 3 o'clock... if you crank it all the way up, it is pure distortion. I guess you can hear how much more the Stingray distorts due to its hotter output than a passive J. So, make sure you have your input gain set optimally (to just below the clip light coming on) and that you have the rest of the EQ neutral (noon) when you are testing it out. Also, make sure you don't have the compressor set at a high level. | the people below me are going to hate me, put ill push the gain this test. I have everything else on my EQ set flat but I will double check the compression. I normally have the gain set to around 4-5 dots |
12-17-2010, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung Bummer... something seems wrong then. That top clip is pretty close to the tone I get at 3 o'clock... if you crank it all the way up, it is pure distortion. I guess you can hear how much more the Stingray distorts due to its hotter output than a passive J. So, make sure you have your input gain set optimally (to just below the clip light coming on) and that you have the rest of the EQ neutral (noon) when you are testing it out. Also, make sure you don't have the compressor set at a high level. | kjung, it was the gain, I had no idea gain would have such an affect on the amp. the thing creams like a banshee now. reading the manual tonight. thanks for helping an amp newb :P *looks like an ass* |
12-17-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Soverntear kjung, it was the gain, I had no idea gain would have such an affect on the amp. the thing creams like a banshee now. reading the manual tonight. thanks for helping an amp newb :P *looks like an ass* | Excellent... yes, it all kind of works together. This amp is a bit complex, so don't feel bad... it took me a while to figure it out also.
One other thing that is kind of cool on this amp that many miss (including me when I first got it) is that the tubetone knob in 'shift mode' is actually a post EQ/effects volume control. That is set all the way up at the factory. That control (like everything else but the master) is storeable in each of the three presets, and is a great tool for getting all your presets to be the same volume, no matter how much effects/EQ/Compression you use.
And finally... the compressor is also primarily driven by the gain control. Keep that gain set just below clipping for all your basses, and you will hear this amp in all its glory. Remember, the gain level is storeable also... so you can set up presets for different basses, etc.
VERY cool amp.. enjoy!!!!! |
12-17-2010, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KJung Excellent... yes, it all kind of works together. This amp is a bit complex, so don't feel bad... it took me a while to figure it out also.
One other thing that is kind of cool on this amp that many miss (including me when I first got it) is that the tubetone knob in 'shift mode' is actually a post EQ/effects volume control. That is set all the way up at the factory. That control (like everything else but the master) is storeable in each of the three presets, and is a great tool for getting all your presets to be the same volume, no matter how much effects/EQ/Compression you use.
And finally... the compressor is also primarily driven by the gain control. Keep that gain set just below clipping for all your basses, and you will hear this amp in all its glory. Remember, the gain level is storeable also... so you can set up presets for different basses, etc.
VERY cool amp.. enjoy!!!!! | thanks for those tips, I shall put them to as good a use as possible. looking forward to getting in to the manual this amp keeps surprising me. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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