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05-29-2012, 12:43 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY/NJ Metro Area | |  RH450 + RS210 Stack: Enough volume for Loud Drummer ?
Hey guys - is the RH450 & x2 RS210 stacked lound enough for a lound rock drummer?
Or should I bite the bullet and get the RH750 ?
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05-29-2012, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl  Hey guys - is the RH450 & x2 RS210 stacked lound enough for a lound rock drummer?
Or should I bite the bullet and get the RH750 ? | I think those amps actually provide the same power. The voicing is different and the 750 "sounds" louder, but you dont get anymore power. If you are set on TC gear, maybe 2x212's would be a better idea for more volume.
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05-29-2012, 01:35 PM
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05-29-2012, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by devilman666 say no to tc . underpowered and over priced | That.... but I was trying to be positive on his question.
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Who the heck wants to "cut" through a mix anyway? I want to punch the mix in the balls. Anyone can cut through the mix. Not everyone can beat the mix's ass | Greenboy-fEARful #53 "Bruce Banner" |
05-29-2012, 01:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY/NJ Metro Area | | | ^ Yeah - I really don't want this thread to go down "that" road. Just wondering what the answer to my question is.
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05-29-2012, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl ^ Yeah - I really don't want this thread to go down "that" road. Just wondering what the answer to my question is. | This is why I suggested 2 x 212's. More volume, safer bet.
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05-29-2012, 01:48 PM
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05-29-2012, 01:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Canada | | | I play with a loud drummer and my RS210 in my practice space is not enough... I have the RH450.
The amp has the juice, but the cab won't keep up on it's own with two guitarists, loud drummer and p/a.
Fishheadjoe
Edit... just read your post above... two RS210's would definately do the job...
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05-29-2012, 01:51 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Easton,Maryland | | | That is the rig I have in a rehearsal space with a loud rock drummer. The answer is no it is not loud enough. With a second 8 ohm 210 or better a 4 ohm 410 you would get more volume and a bigger sound in general.It is the RH 450 I am using also.
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05-29-2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl Hey guys - is the RH450 & x2 RS210 stacked lound enough for a lound rock drummer?
Or should I bite the bullet and get the RH750 ? | I know you said you "didn't want to go down that road", but the reality is that even if the power ratings were legit (450 watts vs 750 watts), the difference would not be that great (less then +3db).
The answer is NOT getting the RH750 - it is about more cabs.
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05-29-2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder I know you said you "didn't want to go down that road", but the reality is that even if the power ratings were legit (450 watts vs 750 watts), the difference would not be that great (less then +3db).
The answer is NOT getting the RH750 - it is about more cabs. | +1
2 x 210 will get the drivers closer to your ears, and you will hear more mids, but you are not going to net any more low end volume than a 410. Combine that with the low/high end roll compression, you will have to try it out to see if the volume is what you need.
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05-29-2012, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass_Pounder I know you said you "didn't want to go down that road", but the reality is that even if the power ratings were legit (450 watts vs 750 watts), the difference would not be that great (less then +3db).
The answer is NOT getting the RH750 - it is about more cabs. | gotcha - so you think the RH450 and x2 RS210 (4x10) would be plenty?
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05-29-2012, 02:30 PM
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05-29-2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl gotcha - so you think the RH450 and x2 RS210 (4x10) would be plenty? | It should suit your needs.
It will definitely be louder than you getting a RH750 + a single 2X10
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05-29-2012, 02:34 PM
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05-29-2012, 03:17 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, UK. | | | It WILL be loud enough. Never heard anyone say the RH450 is underpowered until they saw the 'RMS Wattage'. Its a loud amp.
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05-29-2012, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Musicman20 It WILL be loud enough. Never heard anyone say the RH450 is underpowered until they saw the 'RMS Wattage'. Its a loud amp. | Word.
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05-29-2012, 04:34 PM
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05-29-2012, 06:07 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY/NJ Metro Area | | | I bit the bullet and just coughed up the extra $$ and got the RH750... that way I'll never "wonder".
I see a lot of 12" recommended and I'm not a 12" fan - so RS210's I'll be sticking to - and the extra power is nice piece of mind... few extra hundred worth it IMO... plus the extra featers that I may use.
Thanks for all the input guys.
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05-29-2012, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Modern Growl I bit the bullet and just coughed up the extra $$ and got the RH750... that way I'll never "wonder".
I see a lot of 12" recommended and I'm not a 12" fan - so RS210's I'll be sticking to - and the extra power is nice piece of mind... few extra hundred worth it IMO... plus the extra featers that I may use.
Thanks for all the input guys. | Except there is no additional power...
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