rig buying questions..
Im interested in the next few days to get a bass rig and had a few questions, hoping for some help and opinions..
I played through an Ampeg SVT7 pro today into an SVT 410HLF box.. I will just be playing straight up rock in what could potentially be a reasonably loud band.. I liked the vibe of this Ampeg combination, seemed to give me a fair bit of grunt but i was being somewhat polite in a store and didnt really push it.. Would that head and cabinet be a good match together ? Ive read a few things that the 410HLF is designed to be standalone cabinet and needs a lot of output power to make it work well.. The 7pro seems well spec'd but just wondering if anyone has an opinion or used this setup ?
The other option i was looking at is a Markbass Tube 800 head with a CL104 cabinet.. I tried the CL104 with a littlemark 3 head which i think was 500watt model, the cabinet really seemed to push air nice and sweet without the master turned up too loud.. I think the 500 watt head into that box at 8ohms would have meant i was only drawing 300watts.. If i used the tube 800 into that box i would draw 500 watts i think so im guessing it would have even more headroom ??
I really liked the markbass CL104 but with the tube 800 it would be around 20% more expensive.. Im leaning towards the Ampeg option provided the 7 Pro is easily going to run the SVT410HLF box under reasonably loud rock band conditions ?
If anyone has an opinion or anything they could share would be appreciated..
Also, Is it ok to run pre amp gains fairly high on these heads ? i liked the bit of overdrive i was getting from clipping the input gain on the SVT7 pro, but i wasnt sure if this is a bad idea for some reason ? When you see a clip light coming on all the time my cautious mindset was saying to turn the gain down but i liked the sound of what i was hearing, especially when i ran the 7pro compression fairly high.
Anyway, 7 Pro into the 410hlf is a good match. They're fairly close matched when it comes to wattage and power handling. And yep, you can crank the gain if you want to.
thanks... one other question... do you know if i have the compressor on the 7pro turned all the way down, am i taking it 100% out of the signal chain ? I am toying with the idea of using an external compressor in the loop and experiementing with something that has a bit of drive like a sans amp in front of the head..
From the manual.
This controls the
amount of signal compression. At the
fully counterclockwise position there is
no compression; at the fully clockwise
position the compression ratio is 10:1.
The sonic effect of compression is
reduced dynamics, increased sustain
and a more consistent output level
regardless of how light or hard the
strings are played. The compressor is
very transparent - that is, there is very
little effect on the tone of your
I suggest you give it a try before picking up another one with your hard earned cash.
give the manual a try ?
ahhh cool.. I should try and remember to read the manuals first also.. I always forget i can just download them..
I tried the 7pro out today... I liked it but i found when i dug in and played a bit more agressive the attack of the comp let a few too many transients through for my liking, it was quite good but i am thinkng about maybe trying a different compressor in the chain somewhere, hence i was wondering if i can remove the onboard one completely from signal path.. Thanks for your help.
If the 410HLF is a tone you like, then sure.
And it's fine to run the gain as high as you like. Pay no attention to the light.
i liked the 7pro and 410hlf when i demoed today, i wouldnt be unhappy with it.. The only reservations i have is being a 4ohm box im stuck with that setup.. Also part of me thinks it would be cool to seek out some different avenues as Ampeg is so common in rock.. i want to keep a solid rock sound but it would be cool to get some variation to it that feels a bit like my own. I am thinking of trying a few drive pedals and some compressors alongside whatever head i get to try and craft my own thing a bit. Might look at pickup options after that.. the problem is in Australia stores dont stock much except beginner combos, its very hard to be able to test things properly..
I like the SVT 6 Pro better. It's discontinued but you can usually find a good deal on used U.S. built models. It has 6 tubes compared to the 7 Pro's 1 tube so you can get closer to the classic Ampeg sound and has slightly more power.
If you want to expand your options, I'd definitely look at used gear as well. I don't actually have any amps I bought new, except for a tiny practice combo.
yeah im on ebay quite a bit.. i want to try and buy this rig within the next week or so if i can so at this stage im probably down to either the Ampeg or the Markbass options from the stores unless i get lucky on ebay in the meantime.. Ive at least been able to try both the 7pro/410hlf and the CL104 and they're both cool..
also does anyone know if i have 500watts at 8ohms is it identical to 500 watts at 4ohm ? Does the impedance have any impact on the tone or other character of the sound ? Im guessing it probably doesnt but curious to know if it has any affect..
500w is 500w, regardless of impedance.
also watts =/= volume. Five 100 watt light bulbs dont make much sound.
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