Roger Baer Amplification bass gear is coming out!

B String · #1 09-16-2011, 11:38 AM

It looks like Roger Baer is going to release his ML112 speaker boxes in the next week or so from Baer amplification.

He's been winning NAMM show awards and gathering accolades for his gear for the last years, but it looks like the tweaking is done. I for one am very excited.
From the first moment I played through the amp, I was gushing. Actually, everyone whose played through the head has been gushing. For now, the ML112 speaker box is a good start.

I've been able to spend a good amount of time with the 12/6 box, and have been very surprised at the tone and volume. It so completely kicked the bejeesus out of my Epifani UL112 that I was a bit shocked. The thing about this box for me, is that even though it gets stupid loud and has a very full low end, it sounds just as good at a lower volume, making it a great box for the "working" musician whose not always sure if its a loud gig, a quiet gig, or both. I've used the 12/6 box on numerous gigs and I think its a real winner. I can't wait to see what the bass buying public thinks of Rogers amp and boxes.

KJung · #2 09-16-2011, 11:50 AM

Very cool! Roger is a great guy, and it looks like a lot of love and care went into the design of both the cabs and the head. I hope I get to try one sometime.

That head and cab combination should just kill with your VP5.

DWBass · #3 09-16-2011, 11:51 AM

Figured this thread could use a link or something!

Baer Amplification

basswave · #4 09-16-2011, 11:57 AM

Nice looking forward towards checking it out.

KJung · #5 09-16-2011, 12:03 PM

Love the EQ and center points. Quite similar to the Glock stuff and also the Carvin B2000. Very nice... control over two levels of bass, mid, treble... for boom, punch growl, grind, presence and sizzle

Very nice and well thought out.

B String · #6 09-16-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

Very cool! Roger is a great guy, and it looks like a lot of love and care went into the design of both the cabs and the head. I hope I get to try one sometime.

That head and cab combination should just kill with your VP5.

Funny you should mention the VP5. I had only used Rogers gear with my Jazz 5, and liked it, but the VP5 is a whole other thing. It was a love fest.

Y'know, eq points are weird. On paper is one thing, but actual usage is different. When I looked at the eq specs I was also thinking a little Glock, very wide. But this amp is much more organic sounding with lots of usable tone shaping possibilities.
This also a very user friendly amp. I'm not as technical as some of you guys but I was able to get a great sound very easily with this head. Definitely a more "upper end" piece of gear.

I don't want to sway opinions too much here. Everyone hears differently and uses their gear differently. All I'm saying is that I'm very impressed with Rogers offerings and I'm very interested in what the general bass public will think. Many "industry" guys have already been quite impressed.

B String · #7 09-16-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

Love the EQ and center points. Quite similar to the Glock stuff and also the Carvin B2000. Very nice... control over two levels of bass, mid, treble... for boom, punch growl, grind, presence and sizzle

Very nice and well thought out.

By the way.....Just remember. You're not buying anymore gear for at least a while. This stuff is for the rest of us.

KJung · #8 09-16-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by B String

By the way.....Just remember. You're not buying anymore gear for at least a while. This stuff is for the rest of us.

I am kind of done. Picked up one of the new Acme neo 112's, just because it is quite unique. Didn't need it... .but wanted it

KJung · #9 09-16-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B String

Funny you should mention the VP5. I had only used Rogers gear with my Jazz 5, and liked it, but the VP5 is a whole other thing. It was a love fest.

Y'know, eq points are weird. On paper is one thing, but actual usage is different. When I looked at the eq specs I was also thinking a little Glock, very wide. But this amp is much more organic sounding with lots of usable tone shaping possibilities.
This also a very user friendly amp. I'm not as technical as some of you guys but I was able to get a great sound very easily with this head. Definitely a more "upper end" piece of gear.

I don't want to sway opinions too much here. Everyone hears differently and uses their gear differently. All I'm saying is that I'm very impressed with Rogers offerings and I'm very interested in what the general bass public will think. Many "industry" guys have already been quite impressed.

+1 I didn't mean to imply it would sound like a Glock, but just appreciate that approach to EQ.. simple, but covering all the key areas.

And another +1... those 12/6 type cabs LOVE the P bass

Combine that with what I believe was Roger's goal of 'warm tube tone', and that must be really nice!

Scott McArron · #10 09-16-2011, 12:29 PM

Looking forward to hearing about the price point.

Personally, anything with Norse mythological branding has a +1 in my book. And red is my favorite color, too.

. On a more practical note, loving the semi-para mids for both low and hi mids. Been missing that on my Mesa M6, and am now moving to the M9 for more EQ control. Looks like this Valkyrie is right up my alley!

R Baer · #11 09-16-2011, 04:44 PM

Hey Guys, just a couple quick comments. The ML112 is the only amplification product currently available. We also have padded covers, as well.

The ML212 is in a bit of a limbo, as I am working on a redesign of that cab due to the neo price issue. IMO, it's going to prove too expensive to put two of those custom Eminence drivers in one cabinet. I hope to have the new design out soon.

The VALKYRIE is close, but we need to work out some manufacturing details a bit more first, so production is still a ways off for now. Also, I hate to disappoint the red lovers here, but the amp has changed color. We had too many issues with the red paint staying bonded really well to the aluminum and red anodizing is just so hit or miss. The color between batches is very inconsistent, plus the color changes over time. The amp is now black with aluminum accents and looks very, cool.

Scott McArron · #12 09-16-2011, 05:16 PM

Hey, nothing wrong with black with aluminum accents! Sounds sexy. Can't wait to hear it!

JimmyM · #13 09-16-2011, 05:50 PM

Ya, really. Black is cool. Best of luck with it, Roger!

B String · #14 09-16-2011, 07:34 PM

Well oops for me. I was so enthused about the ML112 box coming out, I didn't even realize the rest of the line wasn't.
I've been playing through the Valkyrie head a bit, and its knocked me out. I can wait a little longer.

**B-string** · #15 09-16-2011, 08:23 PM

Just popping in to add confusion and to say I'd like to hear one of these!

andrew · #16 09-16-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R Baer

The VALKYRIE is close, but we need to work out some manufacturing details a bit more first, so production is still a ways off for now. Also, I hate to disappoint the red lovers here, but the amp has changed color. We had too many issues with the red paint staying bonded really well to the aluminum and red anodizing is just so hit or miss. The color between batches is very inconsistent, plus the color changes over time. The amp is now black with aluminum accents and looks very, cool.

That's perfect. I think the Valkyrie will look killer in black. Way more into it than red.

Jeff Scott · #17 09-16-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by R Baer

Also, I hate to disappoint the red lovers here, but the amp has changed color. We had too many issues with the red paint staying bonded really well to the aluminum and red anodizing is just so hit or miss. The color between batches is very inconsistent, plus the color changes over time. The amp is now black with aluminum accents and looks very, cool.

That's good to know, because my Walter Woods would (

) be really jealous if I brought another red amp into the house.

Hollow Man · #18 09-17-2011, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by B String

I've been playing through the Valkyrie head a bit, and its knocked me out. I can wait a little longer.

Do you have any time on a Thunderfunk 750? If so, could you compare?

B String · #19 09-17-2011, 11:23 AM

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Do you have any time on a Thunderfunk 750? If so, could you compare?

I haven't used the TF750. However, I've seen many tone reviews on it. It would seem these are very different sounding heads. The TF may have a more solid state sound than the Valkyrie. Both amps have a good weight behind each note.

The Valkyrie can get very wide if needed or more focused from low mids to high mids, like the TF. Although not my thing, you can also get a killer, very usable "tube" breakup, overdrive thing with the Baer head. Roger seems very happy about how that turned out. Maybe he can give a better description of the differences in these two heads.

kringle77 · #20 09-17-2011, 01:21 PM

Roger, I didn't expect that you would stay with neo drivers. Will the ceramic version for the 2x10 sound the same, if it goes into production? Since most company's are head back to ceramic for the near future, maybe it would be a good time to just go back to that. It may even bring the cab price down.