Sans amp info may change amp world

[seidler]

To redlawman
Regardingthe tech 21 sans amp. Yesl it is a tube emulator ofnsorts. Actually it has the ability to emulate not only tube amps but actual rigs. Ie svt and 810' etc. S they say. A i. Know is that i use what tech 21 calls the fat tube setting and i completely changes the sound of he mark bass heads to wha i call the perfect bass rig sound. My favorite sound, no talking jus volume here, bu actual bass sound. Warm, with some grit, lots of head room, etc is teh svt classic or fender/sunn 300 watt pro all tube heads with a 215 cabinet. I am not a fan of 10" speakers. Again i know 410 or 810 can sound nice, but a 215 just is what i call bass. With the lmiii or lmiii or even my genz benz 900 you just do not get that sound. I do no care what setting or cabinet you use. Get a sans amp tech 21 and wahoo. Your search for the holy grail is over. I read about i and got one just on a hope it was true. (i would say more pros list in there bio than any other single piece of equip other than a p bass). I am to old to carry a bigtube rig around and in most club situations that is just stupid. I am not sure jow they do it because i have never heard or heard of any ss amp havin this kind of sound. What some enterprising amp manufacturer (is mb listening) does not lliscense the sans amp circui is beyond me. I you have never heard or played through one do not comment until you do. Now i is basically a di box with knobs. I do not even pla with them. I use (they have about 20 or so suggested settings) just one, the fat tube setting. You plug your bass to the input and the 1/4" output to your amp. Or you can bypass your preamp as you can with the lm3 using the bypass on the back panel and therefore using the sans amp as a preamp. Leave your amp settings flat. Vle and vlf off. If you go through the normal bass input on your amp keep your gain pretty low as the sans amp is pretty hot. Then you can also take the xlr out on the sans amp direct to a pa. What is really really cool is you can not take an amp at all and go bass to sans amp to pa as long as your pa has good subs and get the same great sound. I know that sans amp makes a head and have never played or heard one, but how they got it down this good under the average players radar is beyond me. I guess retailers like selling us expensive suff rather than a 200.00 sans amp. Do not take my word for it go out and try one. I am telling you, you will smile. And so moves on the lighter rig brigade. Also with no expensive heavy unreliable tube stuff lug around how can you not be smiling.
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[seidler]

Sorry for the typos, but typing on a damn ipad touch screen kills me.

Sincerely, Crabfat Slim

[seidler]

And NO i do no and never have worked for, known anyone who works for or ever had a sans amp anything until i tried one. I tried it on a whim and seeing it mentioned on so many bass player us and uk artist bios.

[BassmanPaul]

I'm glad you like yours. i've had one for something like twenty years but I never use it. It simply does nothing that I want. To each his own.

[seidler]

I am assuming you have the same pedal. The tech 21 sans amp bass driver di. I did not know it was out 20 years ago.

[nostatic]

yes, welcome to 1989! Grab some hair gel and a glass of chardonnay and have a seat.

Not sure on the Bass DI, but I remember the original Sansamp pedals back in the day. In fact I recall doing a session on guitar for a funk/rap artist back in '90 going direct into the board through a Sansamp. They were cool, especially compared to the then-current solid state stuff. But they don't really sound like tubes.

[Ric5]

Originally Posted by seidler

Sorry for the typos, but typing on a damn ipad touch screen kills me.

Sincerely, Crabfat Slim

Dump the phone and get a computer.



I like the sound of my VT bass ... But I thought the sans amp was harsh and solid state sounding.

[chris stopa]

Liked your review of Sans Amp. I used to have a Sunn200s and really miss the tube sound. Was wondering which model you have. Was it the Sans Amp Bass Driver Dl?

[Bass_Pounder]

Originally Posted by seidler

I am assuming you have the same pedal. The tech 21 sans amp bass driver di. I did not know it was out 20 years ago.

For real...........

Did you also hear that they make basses with more than 4 strings now

[billoetjen]

Originally Posted by seidler

Sorry for the typos, but typing on a damn ipad touch screen kills me.

Sincerely, Crabfat Slim

That's nothing compared to trying to read your mess.
I assume that you had something valuable to say, but I'll never know because I gave up trying to figure it out three sentences into your post.

Please, if you have something worth saying, do it intelligibly.

Our culture is so far down the road to idiocracy, we really don't need any more help.

So, how do you like your Sansamp?

[ggunn]

Originally Posted by billoetjen

That's nothing compared to trying to read your mess.
I assume that you had something valuable to say, but I'll never know because I gave up trying to figure it out three sentences into your post.

Same here. Paragraphs are a wonderful invention.

[insomniac2295]

Originally Posted by billoetjen

That's nothing compared to trying to read your mess.
I assume that you had something valuable to say, but I'll never know because I gave up trying to figure it out three sentences into your post.

Please, if you have something worth saying, do it intelligibly.

^ This guy

[JimmyM]

lesson in typing intelligibly on an iphone:

don't write long messages.

[lomo]

Originally Posted by billoetjen

Please, if you have something worth saying, do it intelligibly.

Our culture is so far down the road to idiocracy, we really don't need any more help.

I would love to buy you a beer the next time I'm in Burlington, in gratitude for posting my thoughts :-)

[spaz21387]

Personally i dont like my sans amp through the pa system or even through my bass cab but for recording its great. just run the di out direct into the mixer/recorder. i prefer the sound of my bass cab over the sansamp but its nice plugging direct into the board instead of mic'ing up a cab and still not getting a good sound. i think it might be the horn in my 6x10.

[lindseyp]

Wow, the guy apologized and you all flamed him anyway. That is so funny. That might be why he never answered which model Sansamp he uses.

OTOH, I have a Sansamp GT that did a great job picking up radio stations when I was living in Korea. I hope he's not recommending that model.

[samc2527]

Originally Posted by Ric5

Dump the phone and get a computer.



I like the sound of my VT bass ... But I thought the sans amp was harsh and solid state sounding.

At least he can probably read, he said he's using an ipad not an iphone...

[bertbassplayer]

Originally Posted by spaz21387

Personally i dont like my sans amp through the pa system or even through my bass cab but for recording its great. just run the di out direct into the mixer/recorder. i prefer the sound of my bass cab over the sansamp but its nice plugging direct into the board instead of mic'ing up a cab and still not getting a good sound. i think it might be the horn in my 6x10.

I've had similar experiences. Last time I was in the studio I recorded through a Radial DI and a Sansamp BDDI and we mixed the two in post (though it never ended up 50/50 it depended on the song). Worked out pretty well. I've tried to use the Sansamp BDDI live and I could never get a sound out of it that I was really happy with.

[JimmyM]

ipad, iphone...they both have crappy touch screen keyboards so whatever.

i'd like to think i was one of the few who actually helped him

[spaz21387]

I think it because the model i have is the 3 channel programmable sansamp and im not sure about the others but its missing controls to adjust the mids. Just bass and treble.