Sansamp bddi into poweramp

**fuzzy beard** · #1 06-13-2011, 08:54 PM

First off yes i searched cant find anything newer on topic than 2005.So i wonder if there is any new info or options.

Was at music store looking at pedals. I dont have or use any as of now. I have heard alot about the sansamp bddi on here so i asked about it. The guy working went on this huge rant about it (all good). But he mentioned you could use this pedal run striaght into a power amp and then run your cab. He said it was the cheapest way to get huge wattage!

So i tried researching it and came up with a bunch of old dead threads. All saying you can and you cant!

So can you?

If so why is this not more commen? bddi about 200 bucks crown 1000 watt power amp about 300 bucks. 500 bucks for 1000 watts at about 13lbs!

sidez81 · #2 06-13-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzy beard

First off yes i searched cant find anything newer on topic than 2005.So i wonder if there is any new info or options.

Was at music store looking at pedals. I dont have or use any as of now. I have heard alot about the sansamp bddi on here so i asked about it. The guy working went on this huge rant about it (all good). But he mentioned you could use this pedal run striaght into a power amp and then run your cab. He said it was the cheapest way to get huge wattage!

So i tried researching it and came up with a bunch of old dead threads. All saying you can and you cant!

So can you?

If so why is this not more commen? bddi about 200 bucks crown 1000 watt power amp about 300 bucks. 500 bucks for 1000 watts at about 13lbs!

Yeah, you can... Thats gonna be my next move in rig style, sansamp to power amp to cabs.. its just a floor based preamp/DI. If need be at some gigs I dont even take an amp at all just run it to the desk let the PA do all the work. Just as a side note alot of ppl including myself love the BDDI and alot dont its more a mid scooped shaping in tone but with the advantage of blend, others have pref to the VT which itself is great aswell with more a mid boost in tone but no blend. so find the one that fits you and all the best with the fun and massive power to come.

**fuzzy beard** · #3 06-13-2011, 09:49 PM

So can you use the vt striaght into a poweramp?

vivifiction · #4 06-13-2011, 09:58 PM

I don't think you can use the VT as a preamp into the poweramp. I might be wrong though.
If memory serves, the BDDI handles 250 watts RMS.

cataract · #5 06-13-2011, 10:03 PM

How about a VT into a BDDI into a power amp?

ThudThudThud · #6 06-13-2011, 10:08 PM

I have a Mark I SABDDI, and I must say it doesn't do well into a power amp. Doesn't seem to have any cajones. Now I also have the Programmable version and that is splendid into a power amp. I have both of them on my board. The Mark I provides basic tone (which I love) as a stomp-box, and then I have the SAPBDDI as the pre-amp proper.

**fuzzy beard** · #7 06-13-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vivifiction

I don't think you can use the VT as a preamp into the poweramp. I might be wrong though.
If memory serves, the BDDI handles 250 watts RMS.

What do you mean handles 250 watts?

**fuzzy beard** · #8 06-13-2011, 10:12 PM

Also this is just me wondering. I dont know that this is somthing for me or my sound. I have been reading more about the bddi and i hear it scoops the mids. I try more for a classic country to a motown type sound. Not saying i wouldnt try it if i had the chance!

**fuzzy beard** · #9 06-13-2011, 10:57 PM

Also if you could suggest a preamp for my sound please do!

**BullHorn** · #10 06-13-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThudThudThud

I have a Mark I SABDDI, and I must say it doesn't do well into a power amp. Doesn't seem to have any cajones. Now I also have the Programmable version and that is splendid into a power amp. I have both of them on my board. The Mark I provides basic tone (which I love) as a stomp-box, and then I have the SAPBDDI as the pre-amp proper.

This makes no sense. The BDDI and the PBDDI is the same thing with the difference of a digital 3 channel memory.

The PDDI might be a better choice because instead of a Presence knob, it has a semi-parametric Mid knob.

Actually, it sucks, just get a normal amp, you'll enjoy it far better.

KLEIN · #11 06-13-2011, 11:11 PM

Yeah thats what I have been running recently. BDDI into an SVT 300 poweramp. Sounds awsome to me.

Plstrns · #12 06-13-2011, 11:24 PM

I use a VT into a crossover, into power amps, through fEarfuls and I love it. I'll never go back to traditional heads or cabs.

::::BASSIST:::: · #13 06-13-2011, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cataract

How about a VT into a BDDI into a power amp?

I have run a VT Bass into a poweramp many times with great success. The poweramp I was using is the peavey dpc 1000.

If you are after a country or motown sound you can definitely get that. I cut my mid and character to 9:00, treble off, and presto instant warmth like you would not believe.

Two things I dont really care for (and why I use the VT with a bx1500 now) is that 1. there is no di with the VT and 2. you have limited eq control. I like to boost low-mids around 160hz or so to help cut thru.

One option you might consider is the tech 21 para driver which has a mid shift dial and DI.

Anyway, any of the 3 pedals will work to drive a poweramp. however, the older sabddi will not.

But your GC associate was right. You can get HUGE wattage, for cheap just using one of these pedals plus a poweramp.

rpsands · #14 06-14-2011, 12:29 AM

Neither the BDDI nor the VT bass can drive a Crown Drivecore power amp to my satisfaction.

The VT deluxe actually sounded like total crap with the Crown by itself. Band mates about revolted on me til I threw a real preamp in there (BBE 383, then an Aguilar tonehammer).

You want 1v input sensitivity or less for either of the Tech21 pedal pres.

**fuzzy beard** · #15 06-14-2011, 12:38 AM

Carvin HD1500 ULTRA LIGHT 1500W POWER AMP.

This is what i think i would go with if i did try this! And only 9 lbs!

rpsands · #16 06-14-2011, 12:40 AM

A good choice. Better choice is not to use a BDDI. There's much better stuff out there for not much more money.

Can't think of a more overpriced pedal pre currently on the market than a BDDI.

**fuzzy beard** · #17 06-14-2011, 12:42 AM

What would you suggest?

rpsands · #18 06-14-2011, 12:47 AM

Just about anything.

Using a Tonehammer right now (with a VT Deluxe for distortion/tone shaping).

Top of my list right now is the DHA DI-EQ, but DHA makes a ton of other good stuff.

Next on my list is the John East STMP (John East Stomp Box - STMP-01)

Next is the FEA Growler.

Other affordable options:
-Zoom B9.1u
-Pod X3 live or an old Bass Pod XT Live

rpsands · #19 06-14-2011, 12:50 AM

Another setup I thought about trying was a couple of those Exar pedals that Bongo resells in the US--

Mixer/Preamp (EXAR Ibex from OVNIFX) + some kind of eq pedal.

**fuzzy beard** · #20 06-14-2011, 12:50 AM

Hmm i was just looking at tone hammer on line. What kind of music do you play? So you use the vt for tone shaping also. Was there not enough room to shape with the tonehammer?