sell markbass tube 800 to get shuttle 9.0

dirtymungoo · #1 08-09-2010, 06:32 PM

i currently have a MarkTube 800 i like it but it just has way to much lows and cant really control overall tone it just naturally has lows. Ive been looking at genz benz product and they look and sound amazing. If you've had experience in genz benz product can you tell me what you think of it? as far as sound how many different tones you can get from it?

twinfallsbass · #2 08-09-2010, 06:55 PM

I have a 9.0 and love it. From what I have heard and read about the LM Tube amps is that the 12ax7 is nothing more than snake oil in that amp. The pre amp (12ax7 ) in the 9.0 likes to be overdriven and sounds good doing so. The 9.0 is one of the most versatile, tubiest sounding hybrid amps I have played through.

John S · #3 08-09-2010, 07:06 PM

I love my 9.0. It is hard to describe, but it makes all my basses sound so good. From Fender P to J to Alembic to G&L,. Flat wounds, Rounds, fingers or pick.
The tube is a blast to push into. Slaps are clean. You can really hear the voice of each bass. Most of my settings are close to straight up, and a just a little turn on the knob goes a long way for the tone change.

dirtymungoo · #4 08-09-2010, 07:58 PM

yea thats another thing the knobs on the tube 800 u dont reallly hear the change like you would the 9.0. I want an amp that is simple but at the same time can be technical to were i can change the overall tone and i feel like the markbass 800 isn't cutting it.

Anyone else have advice on the shuttle 9.0?

dirtymungoo · #5 08-10-2010, 02:30 PM

yea thats another thing the knobs on the tube 800 u dont reallly hear the change like you would the 9.0. I want an amp that is simple but at the same time can be technical to were i can change the overall tone and i feel like the markbass 800 isn't cutting it.

Anyone else have advice on the shuttle 9.0?

svtb15 · #6 08-10-2010, 02:40 PM

My Shuttle 9 has become my main amp.. From small gigs to large festival 10,000+ gigs (With PA support of course) but through and 810 cab on a large gig.. have used my shuttle 12 when running 2- 810 on super large stages....

It takes the heat of outside gigs of 100+ temps. can be clean or as dirty as i want...depending on how hot your bass output is of course when combined with the input level set.
And it fits in my gig bag pocket.

KJung · #7 08-10-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtymungoo

yea thats another thing the knobs on the tube 800 u dont reallly hear the change like you would the 9.0. I want an amp that is simple but at the same time can be technical to were i can change the overall tone and i feel like the markbass 800 isn't cutting it.

Anyone else have advice on the shuttle 9.0?

I hate to say it, but that LMT800 is probably my least favorite Markbass amp... HUGE lows that are hard to control, very present and a bit harsh upper mids, and I don't hear much impact of the tube in the tone of the amp (it isn't a full size 12ax7 like in most hybrids... its a smaller tube that IMO has very little impact other than the volume increasing when the two channels are summed).

The Shuttle 9 would be a good option IMO.. tighter, warmer but still bright and articulate, a bit more impact of the tube, and great features (although I find the voicing buttons much less useful than the variable filters on the MB heads... IMO there).

If you want to try another Markbass head, both the LMIII and the F1 and F500 are warmer, punchier and actually to my ear, louder on the gig than the LMT800... more mid punch, less 'boom' than the 800 series amps.

Modulator · #8 08-10-2010, 02:46 PM

Haven't tried the Markbass, but I LOVE my Shuttle 9. Seems to work great with whatever cab I run it into. Paired with a Schroeder 1210 and with all of my effects on a Pedaltrain MINI board, I get plenty of volume, a huge variety of tones, and can carry my entire rig in one trip.

B String · #9 08-10-2010, 02:53 PM

I was trying to pick between the MB tube 800, and the 9.0, so I bought both to a/b them with different boxes and gigs.

It wasn't even close. Me and everyone around me liked the 9.0so much more than the tube 800. This is coming from a guy who owns two Markbass heads and likes them very much.

MarTONEbass · #10 08-10-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtymungoo

i currently have a MarkTube 800 i like it but it just has way to much lows and cant really control overall tone it just naturally has lows. Ive been looking at genz benz product and they look and sound amazing. If you've had experience in genz benz product can you tell me what you think of it? as far as sound how many different tones you can get from it?

I have used both and came to a similar conclusion that you and others have: the lows on the LMT800 are difficult to control at best. I now have the Shuttle 9 and it is fantastic: tight, with a usable EQ and controllable, punchy lows.

dirtymungoo · #11 08-10-2010, 03:04 PM

i hear 9.0 have a grind or fuzzy sound i was wondering if it can also have a blues mellow round tone

svtb15 · #12 08-10-2010, 03:07 PM

Yes that is where i use my sound most of the time with a passive P bass.

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Originally Posted by dirtymungoo

i hear 9.0 have a grind or fuzzy sound i was wondering if it can also have a blues mellow round tone

KJung · #13 08-10-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtymungoo

i hear 9.0 have a grind or fuzzy sound i was wondering if it can also have a blues mellow round tone

The input gain is set very low on the Shuttle 9, so it can stay VERY clean, even if you have a high output bass and an aggressive playing style. There is more of an issue of getting that tube to break up if you have moderate technique and a typical output instrument. You should have no issue keeping it nice and round and clean.

dirtymungoo · #14 08-10-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

The input gain is set very low on the Shuttle 9, so it can stay VERY clean, even if you have a high output bass and an aggressive playing style. There is more of an issue of getting that tube to break up if you have moderate technique and a typical output instrument. You should have no issue keeping it nice and round and clean.

i will be using a passive warwick so i guess i wont have a problem with that. Thank you for the good advice.

silky smoove · #15 08-10-2010, 03:27 PM

The Shuttle 9.0 is the ONLY Genz Benz head I've ever liked. It's a great sounding unit and the form factor is amazing to say the least. Plenty of power on tap. If I wasn't so in love with my Tecamp Puma1000, I'd very likely be running a Shuttle 9.0 right now.

B String · #16 08-10-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by silky smoove

The Shuttle 9.0 is the ONLY Genz Benz head I've ever liked. It's a great sounding unit and the form factor is amazing to say the least. Plenty of power on tap. If I wasn't so in love with my Tecamp Puma1000, I'd very likely be running a Shuttle 9.0 right now.

Sort of like me. If I could afford a Puma1000, I'd be running a 9.0 if I didn't have a Puma1000. (lol lol i'm killin myself here)

silky smoove · #17 08-10-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B String

Sort of like me. If I could afford a Puma1000, I'd be running a 9.0 if I didn't have a Puma1000. (lol lol i'm killin myself here)

Haha, well played sir

bassnyc1 · #18 08-11-2010, 05:02 AM

There have been a lot of threads comparing Genz Benz and MarkBass amps. Let me first state that they are both quality products; at the top of the heap as far as bass amps go. This is especially true when the discussion of micro bass heads comes up. I am, however, a very proud Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0/NeoX 212T owner so my opinions may seem biased to some but please let me explain why.

I bought my GB rig almost a year ago. Before that, it had been 18 years since I had made a bass amp purchase. I didn't know anything about the current amp market and was considering Ampeg. I inquired here on talkbass and was introduced to Genz Benz, MarkBass and a few others. I went to a few big music stores both in New York and Tokyo. I compared quite a few amps with quite a few cabinets. I kept coming back to Genz Benz. In addition to that, I thought the MarkBass LM II and F1 heads sounded lifeless. (sorry, just MHO) I was impressed by Genz Benz's sound, quality and of course their great customer service. I have not been let down once by the amp and cabinet I purchased and I have used both a lot in the past year.

So, to the OP: my opinion is that you cannot go wrong with Genz Benz. Some of the other posters in this thread may be GB fanboys like me but I'm sure that if you buy one, you will be able to dial in any tone you need, reliably with more power than you'll probably ever need.

Absentia · #19 08-11-2010, 05:23 AM

Yeah thinking of keeping my cmd102p as a practice amp (excuse to keep it) and building a genz rig myself 9.0 sounds great.

dirtymungoo · #20 08-14-2010, 01:32 PM

i just spoke to someone who said that genz benz 9.0 was underpowered and to thin when playing live. please confirm that this is not true.