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tekdiver500ft · #21 01-26-2013, 07:23 PM

The BX2000 really isn't any simpler, it just doesn't have a graphic EQ on it. I do like it better, though, for that reason and because it is a single monoblock. Metal tone? I don't know, which metal tone are you looking for? So many metal bassists have pedals before the amp that talking about the amp's "tone" is unnecessary, as you'll never hear it. It will get loud, it has ample power to drive big speakers into seriously deep tones and is still capable of producing enough treble to make your distortion scream, so if that's what you mean by "metal tone," then yes.

Jeff Scott · #22 01-26-2013, 07:41 PM

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will it get a good metal tone?

Aluminum?

Stainless Steel?

Titanium?

dukey donkey · #23 01-26-2013, 07:42 PM

I'm not much for pedals... I like a good piano-y tone with a little grit from the tube... I usually turn my bass back to between 9 and 10 o'clock and my mids are at 10 with my highs set between 4 and 5 o'clock on the firebass 700 I'm using right now... with my pre gain set right at the brink of starting to break up, and my master set at around 3 o'clock... the contour knob is almost all the way up, and the bright switch is on...

dukey donkey · #24 01-26-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Scott

Aluminum?

Stainless Steel?

Titanium?

har har

Jeff Scott · #25 01-26-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dukey donkey

crap... i just looked at the manual... nope

You could always buy a second identical amp and Y your bass into both, each one driving an individual cabinet. You get some backup potential this way, also.

B-string · #26 01-26-2013, 07:45 PM

Or master/slave the heads so no Y cable is needed.

two fingers · #27 01-26-2013, 07:45 PM

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Even with two outputs, you couldn't run two of these cabs, it isn't 2 ohm stable. Daisy chaining is the same as using two outputs, too.

The long and short of it right there.

two fingers · #28 01-26-2013, 07:48 PM

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anyone have a good recommendation for a 2 ohm min load head?

Here's my question. Why are you married to the idea of 4 ohm cabs? Are you confused about some speaker math or something? Or maybe I missed something (which is quite possible).

dukey donkey · #29 01-26-2013, 07:50 PM

I want to continue using the cab I have... I absolutely love it. And add another cab...
its a Peavey TXF 412

B-string · #30 01-26-2013, 07:51 PM

412 cabs come in 8 ohm?

TheRealKong · #31 01-26-2013, 08:18 PM

Marshall MB 450 h is 2-Ohm - stable. And its one of the most underrated amps.

My SWR Redhead died just in time, 24 hours before a prestige gig in my hometown. So I had to get me an amp, combo amp precedented.

The only amp available with more than 200 Watt was this Marshall MB 4410, a heavy, road-worthy built hybrid amp with 450 Watts @ 2 Ohms. I checked it out in the store - and diged it.

There are two preamps, one solid state and one with a ecc83. The solid state pre has semiparametric mids, the tube section a three-way mid knob with boost and cut knob. There is a third channel where you can blend the both pres with seperate volume control.

The backside offers a lot of options, fx-loop, pre out, power amp in, two speakon connectors for cabs..... Everything you need. The power amp is class A/B, no lightweight amp. But I don't know any lightweight amp that is able to deliver to 2 Ohms.

Lots of Peavey-amps can be run at 2 Ohms. I don't know about the new models, but the old ones are good for it. Like my old T-Max.

This says Kong.

Cheers

Uwe

1954bassman · #32 01-26-2013, 08:22 PM

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anyone have a good recommendation for a 2 ohm min load head?

eden

dukey donkey · #33 01-27-2013, 01:47 AM

I think I'm gonna get the carvin b2000... looking to add a 1820 cab.. or thi older EV 2x15 I spotted

tekdiver500ft · #34 01-27-2013, 05:39 AM

Don't add a 2x15 to a 4x12, you'll hate yourself for it later. They really aren't compatible, and you'll wind up frying the 2x15, unless you keep volume levels low. Since you have a 4x12, you should get another of them, preferably the same model. Really. There's a lot of math and physics involved, but it's 100% true.

bongomania · #35 01-27-2013, 05:50 AM

Agreed.

Also, your description of your EQ settings and the contour knob tells us that you are cranking a simply massive amount of treble EQ, a crazy amount. That's fine, that's your tone, but you may be able to get what you want even better by allowing your bass rig to handle all the bass and mids, and just add a nice guitar combo amp for the top end. This will be easier to carry around than a second huge cab, and it will do the job more effectively, and you wouldn't have to buy a new amp head.

Lots of metal guys do this.

tekdiver500ft · #36 01-27-2013, 06:01 AM

Bongo is absolutely right. Besides, a crossover and small guitar combo is much less expensive than a new bass head and second cab.

john m · #37 01-27-2013, 07:10 AM

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Then listen. I think the two cabs will be louder with less headroom at the amp.

I put some math to it. Doubling the watts yields +1dB,

Doubling the speakers yields +3 dB.

Of course, once the xMax of the speaker is maximized, the extra power turns into heat.

dukey donkey · #38 01-27-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bongomania

Agreed.

Also, your description of your EQ settings and the contour knob tells us that you are cranking a simply massive amount of treble EQ, a crazy amount. That's fine, that's your tone, but you may be able to get what you want even better by allowing your bass rig to handle all the bass and mids, and just add a nice guitar combo amp for the top end. This will be easier to carry around than a second huge cab, and it will do the job more effectively, and you wouldn't have to buy a new amp head.

Lots of metal guys do this.

Any examples of setups I can look at? Also, I'm pretty much stuck getting a new head anyway... the firebass is on loan.