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Old 02-06-2013, 06:36 PM
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Should I jump on this deal? Ampeg vb4h

I've read the threads about how the ampeg vb4h lacks clean volume/headroom at 100 watts. I have the opportunity to snag a used but not abused vb4h and svt 810e cab for a total of $650. I'm thinking this is a steal of a deal.

The few gigs I've done I always run into the pa and use my cab as a monitor, so the volume concern may not be an issue for me.

Could be my first tube amp...
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:38 PM
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killer deal on a great sounding setup!
I thought it lacked the volume I needed for loud rock, but at that price I'd buy it just to have at the house!
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:39 PM
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that's, in my opinion, an awesome price. you could always decide you don't like it and profit from the learning experience!
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:40 PM
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If you don't get them let me know where they are and I will (LOL). But seriously, I think you will be very pleased with that setup.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:19 PM
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I think I'm sold on this. And it's V4BH.
My bad.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:30 PM
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Great deal. I'd buy the rig and flip it personally.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:32 PM
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:43 PM
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The V4 is a great little amp. I had an early seventies version for a couple of months. When I got it, I had a full service done, tubes, caps, etc. Played it through an 810e and a Mesa 215. Both cabs sounded great with this head. However, one caveat, at 100 watts the V4 tends to venture into distortion quite quickly when trying to push through a couple of guitars and a drummer, even with a bigger cab. Although I really loved the tone at lower volumes, I found the V4 just didn't seem to have enough clean headroom for my needs. YMMV
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:49 PM
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What Kdogg says is pretty right on for the V4 and V4B. The V4BH is, although billed as a 'reissue', a completely different animal. It has many of the same sonic limitations, but it has a different character and demeanor. Kdogg could easily say much of the same things about the V4BH, but his experience while similar would have been of a different kind of 'similar'. Ive had both. The V4B is GLORIOUS but kicks into heavy overdrive easily. The V4BH has a BEAUTIFUL clean tone, but wont get as loud as the V4B can in overdrive. The breakup on the V4BH is a little more "break up" and less "heavy".
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:52 PM
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Mine sounds awesome!! A great sounding amp!!
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:58 PM
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I had an early '70's V4B a few years ago and it was pretty killer with an old Ampeg 2x15. Definitely a lot of distortion at 'loud band' level though. Wonderful tone, killer mojo. Seems like high volume from the rig isn't a huge concern of yours.

If I found a similar deal I'd flip the cabinet and buy two SVT-210AV's... saw a picture of a V4BH on two of them here on TalkBass a few years ago and can't stop thinking about that setup!
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:33 PM
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+1 for the V4(B) vs V4BH. I like my VT-22 (V4) much more than the V4BH. It was like an underpowered SVT with EL34 IMO/IME but again, it's a great deal. I'm not sure the V4BH would cut it for me and my groups where the vintage V4's will FWIW.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:21 PM
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Hmm, how much louder/more present is the v4/vt22 compared to the V4bh ?

BUY IT!!!! I would!
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:47 PM
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Yeah, I see the listing for it too...don't worry, I'm in no position to move on it, and nor do I really want to.

I do think its a steal though - you could buy it and even flip to cab for almost a free amp, or turn them both around for a profit.

My vote - go for it!!!
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