Should I trade my ampeg 810 for two fender cabs?

Reynolds 101 · #1 09-10-2010, 02:09 PM

I want to get rid of my ampeg 810e so I can get a 4x10 and a 1x15 cab. Im sick of transporting it so I figured that would be my best option.

I know someone thats in a melodic hardcore band that has 2 fender cabs and would be willing to trade. Im not sure what models they are but I have a picture. I plan on seeing his band tonight to hear the cabs, but can anyone tell me what models these are, how they sound and if you think it would a fair trade?

Thanks

BassmanPaul · #2 09-10-2010, 02:12 PM

I don't think I would for one. Besides a 4x10 plus 1x15 is a horrible pairing IMO.

Paul

JimmyM · #3 09-10-2010, 02:19 PM

+1. if it were two 410's i might say it would be a good trade.

Reynolds 101 · #4 09-10-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BassmanPaul

I don't think I would for one. Besides a 4x10 plus 1x15 is a horrible pairing IMO.

Paul

Really how come? (directed to both answers)

JimmyM · #5 09-10-2010, 02:23 PM

a 410 is about twice as loud as a 115, and introduces the possibility of phasing issues that can have a detrimental effect on your tone. i know a lot of people use a rig like that and like it, but i've never played a single 410/115 rig and liked it. if the phasing didn't bother me, the volume imbalance did.

PinkFloydDan · #6 09-10-2010, 02:24 PM

Tim1 · #7 09-10-2010, 02:24 PM

I have owned and regularly gigged both an Ampeg 810 and a Fender 115/410 stack (not the more recent version). While the Fender stack was good value I do not think it came anywhere close to the Ampeg 810 for grunt, wallop and sheer playing enjoyment. With the Fender there was always the sense of a "limit" beyond which you could not go, whereas the Ampeg gave no hint of that. I remember at the time feeling that this came from the 115 cab more than the 410. I wouldn't do the trade - I currently own a Bergantino NV610 which IMO beats them both hands down and is easy to schlep. Hope this helps, just my .02.

Reynolds 101 · #8 09-10-2010, 02:28 PM

Thanks everyone, Ill stay away from it then. I'll just stick to craigslist.

DBTOYS · #9 09-10-2010, 11:52 PM

i would not the 810 also has wheels and is actually easer to transport the others do not + i think if you listened to the tone you may also want to keep the 810

James Simonson · #10 09-11-2010, 12:10 AM

One great cab with a dolly attached for two back breakers? Careful what you wish for...

+1 Jimmy M

fettbass · #11 09-11-2010, 12:50 AM

Those are the newer bassman cabs. As far as I know, the power handling on them is a bit lower, even combined, than what you would get with your ampeg cab, so depending on your head, that could be problematic in and of itself.

dmusic148 · #12 09-11-2010, 01:20 AM

In my experience a 1x15 makes an expensive stand for a 4x10. But hey, some folks like it. A better pair IMO/IME is a 1x15 and 2x10 stack. But still, two 4x10's will leave it for dead.
2 15's is another story....
Better all around to stay with the 8x10, IMO.

miholc · #13 09-11-2010, 01:41 AM

You've said you're sick of transporting 810. Can't say for the tone cause I have no experiences but moving two cabs is more difficult although they are smaller.
What about some 610? They're smaller/lighter and come close to Ampeg's 810.

Bassmec · #14 09-11-2010, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyM

a 410 is about twice as loud as a 115, and introduces the possibility of phasing issues that can have a detrimental effect on your tone. i know a lot of people use a rig like that and like it, but i've never played a single 410/115 rig and liked it. if the phasing didn't bother me, the volume imbalance did.

The only way round the problems is to have two amps with separate EQ each amp idealized for each speakers performance.
I don't think the theoretical micro phase issue is a problem with this old Eden/Ampeg pairing: