Shroeder Cabs ?

Zonked · #1 08-06-2011, 11:51 AM

Hey all,

I was eying the Shroeder 412L (only 65 lbs according to the web site) Does anyone have any direct experience with this cab? What are your overall impressions of Shroeder cabs? Thanks.

**Chef** · #2 08-06-2011, 02:08 PM

"Schroeder"
If you do a search, you'll likely find a lot of info.

diglo · #3 08-06-2011, 02:12 PM

If you just need a lightweight cab, great! But, too much mids going on for me. THe BMF series sounded better to my ears, but was never satisfied with sound. I went back to a heavy cab.

**JxBass** · #4 08-06-2011, 02:34 PM

I owned the 15+L and it's a really great cab. Hard to beat a 15" cab with the power and even tone it possesses at 30 lbs.

Zonked · #5 08-06-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef

"Schroeder"
If you do a search, you'll likely find a lot of info.

Ah! Schroeder....Thanks. I did do a search but really nothing that related to the Schroeder 412L.

lomo · #6 08-06-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonked

Ah! Schroeder....Thanks. I did do a search but really nothing that related to the Schroeder 412L.

Don't expect it to sound like any other 412. Expect a midrange bazooka that, compared to most 412s, will be shy in the lows under 300Hz. It'll be insanely loud, easy to hear in a mix, but not very pillowy or foundational.

Zonked · #7 08-06-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by diglo

If you just need a lightweight cab, great! But, too much mids going on for me. THe BMF series sounded better to my ears, but was never satisfied with sound. I went back to a heavy cab.

Well the light weight is definitely a strong selling point, but I also want a thick, punchy, articulate sound that is not harsh on top. Anyone else have experience with Schroeder cabs and more specifically...the new Schroeder 412L? What are are the inherent sound characteristics? How is the cab voiced? Thanks everyone.

Zonked · #8 08-06-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lomo

Don't expect it to sound like any other 412. Expect a midrange bazooka that, compared to most 412s, will be shy in the lows under 300Hz. It'll be insanely loud, easy to hear in a mix, but not very pillowy or foundational.

Thanks.
Well that is not what I am looking for. I expected better for that price! Anyone with a different opinion?

MG Bass · #9 08-07-2011, 09:35 PM

Bergantino NV412 - don't think there is any other 412 better. IMO of course!

MysticMichael · #10 08-07-2011, 09:42 PM

I've never heard a Schroeder cab that I actually liked - and I've played a couple, and heard several. Way too "boxy" sounding for my taste. And not nearly enough lows.

MM

shrigg · #11 08-07-2011, 09:47 PM

I had a 1212BMF for a short time. Loved the light and loud aspects but it was way too midrangey and bassless for me. Sold it and went back to my Acme B2 which was polar opposite (HUGE bass and no mids by comparison).

grobe · #12 08-08-2011, 08:18 AM

Is the 15+L also midrangey? Thanks.

lomo · #13 08-08-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by grobe

Is the 15+L also midrangey? Thanks.

Kjung has accurately (IMHO) described that cab as being the loudest 10 he has ever heard. Great form factor and light, but does not go as low as many other single 12s or 15s.

Thombas · #14 08-08-2011, 08:39 AM

My 2 cents are probably only borderline relevant, having not tried the Schroe 412, but here goes anyway: I've owned the 1212BMF, and didn't find it too "midrangy", at least not with the amp (Epi UL502) and bass (w. Bart soapbars and pre) I used it with. It was a pretty even, punchy little rig, with a tight bass and a slight midrange bump. But the geeral tone was not "thick" as you describe you are looking for. ANYWAYS, I also had the Aggie GS412, and THAT fits the description "thick, punchy, articulate sound that is not harsh on top" perfectly, IMO. Yes, it's around 120 pounds, but surprisingly easy to haul around.

AwkwardLoudness · #15 08-08-2011, 09:04 AM

I've only heard a couple Schroeder cabs....both were 4x12 BMF I think. Loud and rich in the mid-range is consistent with what I recall. Unfortunately, there is no padding on the inside of these cabs for proper damping, which is why they sound so boxy. The tone should improve if one adds foam padding to the cab interior. For the price, you'd think Schroeder would do this already, but they're not the only guilty cab builder in this regard.

RS · #16 08-08-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lomo

Kjung has accurately (IMHO) described that cab as being the loudest 10 he has ever heard. Great form factor and light, but does not go as low as many other single 12s or 15s.

I'd say it puts out (or at least you can EQ in) a significant amount of lows to put it on par with most 12s. Plus it is very light and super low. Won't do the pillows lows though...

RS

grobe · #17 08-08-2011, 09:21 AM

Interesting. How do the lows of the 15+L compare with a GS112? Anybody try them both?

lomo · #18 08-08-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AwkwardLoudness

I've only heard a couple Schroeder cabs....both were 4x12 BMF I think. Loud and rich in the mid-range is consistent with what I recall. Unfortunately, there is no padding on the inside of these cabs for proper damping, which is why they sound so boxy. The tone should improve if one adds foam padding to the cab interior. For the price, you'd think Schroeder would do this already, but they're not the only guilty cab builder in this regard.

Box volumes also tend to be small WRT to drivers-a big part of the weight reduction.

fishstix · #19 08-08-2011, 09:38 AM

In short, I've got a love/hate relationship with my Schroeders. Size/weight & punch/volume vs. tone (not that I hate the tone, I just don't love it). However, I don't have the 412, just the 1212L and the 21012R.

My biggest piece of advice would be to try it in a band mix before deciding if you like it. I HATE mine at home but in the mix the tone works and maybe even excels. Of course IMO.

fretno · #20 08-08-2011, 06:34 PM

I love my mini 12 + , it's loud and super light .