Shuttle Max 9.2

klangur · #1 11-20-2011, 01:52 PM

Hi everyone.

It seems to my after read threads here that the
Shuttle 9 is much overrated and is much more
like 600 watt amp.

But how about his bigger brother the Shuttle Max 9.2,
is it resonable rated or more like 600 watts?

Have this amp been a trouble or does it work fine?

And how about Genz Benz customer service?

RickenBoogie · #2 11-20-2011, 02:09 PM

What cab(s) are you using?

jnewmark · #3 11-20-2011, 02:30 PM

I've owned all three, and played all three into a GB Neox 212T. I did'nt care much for any of them, but, I can definitely say that the 9.2 had more oompf and grunt into that cab with everything else being equal.

klangur · #4 11-20-2011, 02:55 PM

Im using EPI ul 410 4ohm

RickenBoogie · #5 11-20-2011, 04:11 PM

It's difficult to judge any amp by it rated power output, The wattage is only part of it. The built-in voicing and eq will have even more to do with the apparent loudness, or lack thereof. I wouldn't doubt GB's wattage ratings, but maybe their voicing is not for you.

MarTONEbass · #6 11-20-2011, 05:28 PM

I've gigged my 9.2 about 6 times, never had an issue. Tough to say about the output, it seems better than the Shuttle 9 I had.

It is a fantastic sounding and versatile head. Genz service is second to none, I've never needed it, but there are plenty of people on TB with positive experiences.

5StringPocket · #7 11-20-2011, 07:47 PM

If the voicing is to your liking, the SM9.2 can get a lot of different tones and has enough power to drive a large 4 ohm cab hard enough to cover any gig for me. I've had the Shuttle 6.0 (which didn't do it for me) and SM12.0 and currently have the SM9.2 and STM900. I haven't had any reliability issues and the 900 3DPM amp section common to the SM9.2 and STM900 seems to have noticeably more headroom. They don't have as much brute power as something like a Mesa M9 but have plenty to get the job done and stay musical when pushed. I use mine with the GB Uber 410 and a 1212/66 cab with a pair of 3012LF woofers. Both cabs are rated for 1000 watts rms and these amps sound wonderful with these cabs - full, punchy, warm, good low end, articulation, and midrange growl.

Tunaman · #8 11-20-2011, 08:04 PM

5String: I'd be really interested to hear your take on the 12.0 vs 9.2 & what that 3DPM brings of just how they are different.
Also Streamliner vs Shuttlemax 9.2... I'm seriously considering getting the 9.2 to go with my SL900. I've held off the 12.0 & the 9.0 as the OP said waiting to see what the new .2 series is bringing to the table.

5StringPocket · #9 11-20-2011, 08:45 PM

Since the SM12.0 and SM9.2 have the same front end you have to push the amps to notice any difference. It's subtle but with my 1212/66 cab, which can handle a lot of power with no low end breakup, the 9.2 seemed to offer a bit more headroom and when pushed hard, stayed clean on top with just a bit of low end compression (as advertised). If you need to run less than a 4ohm total load the SM12.0 can do it but if you want max power into a 4 or 8 ohm load the 9.2 would be the one.

One thing I like about the STM900/SM9.2 pair is that 3DPM amp section with totally different pre-amps. If you actually have a monster gig with multiple cabs you can use one amp as your primary and run the 2nd as a slave to give you an 1800 watt rig. The 9.2 FET is smooth but can be eq'd to have a nice punch. The 9.2 tube seems to have more cut to it and is what I use more onstage in a busy mix. I think the SM9.2 was worth the wait. (Still a fan of the aux in and wish more amps offered them)

klangur · #10 11-21-2011, 09:13 AM

Hi again, and thank you very much for your time.
I did get everything out of this replys I needed, and the Shuttle Max is high
on my list.

Musicman20 · #11 11-21-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tunaman

5String: I'd be really interested to hear your take on the 12.0 vs 9.2 & what that 3DPM brings of just how they are different.
Also Streamliner vs Shuttlemax 9.2... I'm seriously considering getting the 9.2 to go with my SL900. I've held off the 12.0 & the 9.0 as the OP said waiting to see what the new .2 series is bringing to the table.

I have considered getting the 9.2 to ying/yang my Streamliner...probably polar opposites, which is what I want!

Tunaman · #12 11-21-2011, 10:55 AM

The ying\yang amps thing is pretty fun.
We keep talking about the 9.2 but NAMM is close & we SHOULD get a 3.2 6.2 & 12.2 which are worth keeping an eye out for at this point

Musicman20 · #13 11-21-2011, 01:57 PM

I have a funny feeling we are going to see .2 versions of the 6.0 and 9.0 Shuttles, as you mentioned.

Thing is, Id love the 2 channels and two mid range controls of the Max9.2....hmm!

Tunaman · #14 11-21-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman20

I have a funny feeling we are going to see .2 versions of the 6.0 and 9.0 Shuttles, as you mentioned.

Thing is, Id love the 2 channels and two mid range controls of the Max9.2....hmm!

A 6.2 with one strip of the 9.2 controls is my expectation whether its tube or FET, most likely tube.

I personally need a FET amp as the Streamliner has enough tube. Just waiting on NAMM

I'm with the OP, new products along the 3, 6 & 12 would be very welcomed as the 9.2 was a fantastic refresh.

5StringPocket · #15 11-21-2011, 03:47 PM

Why not just get a 9.2? Even if the FET is primarily what you're after, the ability to blend the FET and tube with different eq's opens up new tonal pallette's. I'm sure it wouldn't go to waste and you can pick up used in like new condition for $750 or less. Some of the users here on TB have done some pretty creative mixes.

Tunaman · #16 11-22-2011, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 5StringPocket

Why not just get a 9.2? Even if the FET is primarily what you're after, the ability to blend the FET and tube with different eq's opens up new tonal pallette's. I'm sure it wouldn't go to waste and you can pick up used in like new condition for $750 or less. Some of the users here on TB have done some pretty creative mixes.

I like the 9.2 but we r so close to Namm that we might as well see if they have some surprises... especially out of the 12.2

bucephylus · #17 11-22-2011, 12:06 PM

I thought the 9.0 and 9.2 had the same output sections?

I have a 12.0 and a 9.0, so am familiar with both front ends. Kind of surprised to read so many posts dogging the 9.0. It works perfectly well for me. OTOH, I can understand why some players could prefer the 9.2 front end. Curiously, I run my 9.0 flat, but need to EQ my 12 front end to get the same lower mid push. But, that's just me. GL.

KJung · #18 11-22-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bucephylus

I thought the 9.0 and 9.2 had the same output sections?

I have a 12.0 and a 9.0, so am familiar with both front ends. Kind of surprised to read so many posts dogging the 9.0. It works perfectly well for me. OTOH, I can understand why some players could prefer the 9.2 front end. Curiously, I run my 9.0 flat, but need to EQ my 12 front end to get the same lower mid push. But, that's just me. GL.

I believe there is an updated power amp limiting circuit in the 9.2 that gives it a little more kick when you crank it versus the 9.

bucephylus · #19 11-22-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KJung

I believe there is an updated power amp limiting circuit in the 9.2 that gives it a little more kick when you crank it versus the 9.

So, is this similar to what we eventually learned about the 6.0 vs 9.0? Do you have any link to threads that discuss this including the GB guys?

Just curious, because I was VERY familiar with the limiting issues with the 6.0 at higher volumes, but the 9.0 has NEVER limited for me in any situation, even some pretty high volume situations; and I have used it many times to push the NV610 with no issues. So, if there is a limiting issue with its output, I sure have not found it. By a long shot. The output of the 9.0 is way over what the louder club gigs in this area will even allow.

Further, if I really needed to go higher than the 9.0 could allow, I wouldn't even try to use any micro. I would probably go out and get a Mesa M9 or go back to a pre/power amp rack. Probably the latter. But, that's just me.

5StringPocket · #20 11-22-2011, 01:37 PM

There is a big difference between the Shuttle 6.0 and 9.0, 50% more rated power and less attenuated low end which accounts for the way the 9.0 is better suited to the larger cabs. The difference between the 9.0 and 9.2 amp sections is more subtle; no change in rated power but incorporating the 3DPM limiter developed for the Streamliner 900. Genz is incorporating improvements made along the way into the newer models. That's a good thing. Nothing at all wrong with the 9.0, the 9.2 is just newer and incorporates the MAX tube/FET pre and the PHAT with 3DPM into the amp section. The users guide gives a good description of all these acronyms but in the end it's just a versatile nice sounding amp. As far as needing more power than this you're really pushing the whole micro thing, I'd have to agree.