Shuttlemax single cab question!

[GSNOLA]

Hey y'all,

So, I am about to become the proud owner of a Shuttlemax, and I am debating dumping cabs...I am going to hold my fire until I hear them, but I wondered if anyone had any ideas.
I have a GK RBX 2x10 (400w, 8 ohms) which I take to smaller gigs - this will fit nicely with the 375w output. I also have a GK NEO 212ii (600w, 8 ohms)...now here's my Q.

I've looked at Acme B2s, and LDS single 1x12 (which I really like the look of) - to replace the 2x12. And...I was thinking about replacing the NEO212 with a 4 ohm cab.

Any thoughts?

[mntngrown]

The new Avatar TB15 3 way cab at the intro price of 399.00
looks great, and for a shuttlemax 12 2 of em at 4ohms.(mirror image).
My Smax12 really sounds good through my 2 4 ohm Acme B-2's also but I worry about pushing them outdoors or at larger venues so I don't.
Check the Avatar 3 way thread for good info.

[mwbonsall]

Take a look a the new Genz Uber 1288 and 115 cabs.

Mark

[GSNOLA]

Guys, awesome ideas. That GB 128 cab looks killer. Hmm...my only problem is that I couldn't drag that to any smaller gigs. I was thinking about one 4 ohm cab, and one 8 ohm to squeeze 75% of the SMax. Keep one as a rehearsal cab, and then use the little 8 ohm-er as a small gig cab. Double em up to kill the drummer.

Man, I am looking at that LDS 12" cab for sale in the classifieds and wondering. 30 lbs. and 500w?? Jeez.

[KJung]

Originally Posted by GSNOLA

Hey y'all,

So, I am about to become the proud owner of a Shuttlemax, and I am debating dumping cabs...I am going to hold my fire until I hear them, but I wondered if anyone had any ideas.
I have a GK RBX 2x10 (400w, 8 ohms) which I take to smaller gigs - this will fit nicely with the 375w output. I also have a GK NEO 212ii (600w, 8 ohms)...now here's my Q.

I've looked at Acme B2s, and LDS single 1x12 (which I really like the look of) - to replace the 2x12. And...I was thinking about replacing the NEO212 with a 4 ohm cab.

Any thoughts?

I guess the main thought is to pretty much ignore the cabinet 'power rating', which does not represent how much power the cab needs, nor how loud it will be at a given input.

I'm sure that LDS 12 is a nice one, but should perform similarly to most high quality 112's, even if the power rating of that particular drive is quite high.

The Acme B210 is a very different thing... super deep low end, not a massive amount of punch or absolute volume. I'd do a search and reach a lot about these before deciding... they are truly unique cabs, and unique means they definitely arent' for everyone!

I assume you are getting a Shuttlemax 6? If so, I would consider a nice 4ohm, high quality 212... the Genz Neox212, the Bergantino AE212... both voiced wonderfully for the max 6, both 4ohms, both high SPL with plenty of punch and low end IMO.

For a really small cab solution, I just love my Audiokinesis ThunderChild, which is 4ohms and has a driver that can handle the power of the Max 6 (or half the max 12... whatever!). It is very smooth and fat and warm and organic, but sounds very good and has impressive low end and max volume for its small size.

IMO! You are getting a very nice head by the way... great amp... Max 6 or 12.

[hags2k]

Originally Posted by KJung

I assume you are getting a Shuttlemax 6?

I'm guessing he's getting the 12 if he plans on running an 8 ohm and 4 ohm cab together. Otherwise, I fear he might run into some problems

[KJung]

Originally Posted by hags2k

I'm guessing he's getting the 12 if he plans on running an 8 ohm and 4 ohm cab together. Otherwise, I fear he might run into some problems

I read his post differently... that he is looking for a single cab solution. I could be wrong though.

[svtb15]

If you have the Shuttle max 6.. A nice match up t o that is the Genz Neox212.. its 4 ohms and nicely balanced in tone. Very light in weight yet its fairly tall so the upper speaker is up higher and you can hear it pretty well

[GSNOLA]

...for all the advice, guys. I am the proud owner of a SMax 12, not the 6 - I play outdoors on some bigger stages sometimes, so the 12 was my preferred option.

I am swinging towards 2 x Acme B2 4Ohmers....they sound like the right match. I tend to like deep and rootsy anyway, so I figure the sounds profile might work. Plus the size thing would be an advantage for me.

Whaddya think of that as an option?

[KJung]

That would be a nice rig. The new Acme B's have some nice new design upgrades... a better tweeter protection circuit, an optional spray on finish, etc. Make sure to call Andy at Acme and talk with him. He's a very knowledgable guy, and will give you the straight scoop.

The Shuttle 12 should drive two of those nicely, and the voicing down low is tight enough that it should work nicely with the huge Acme low end (i.e., you can dial some in rather than worrying about it being too much).

[BassmanPaul]

When you get the B2s stack them vertically on their ends. I think you'll like the result.

[mntngrown]

Originally Posted by GSNOLA

...for all the advice, guys. I am the proud owner of a SMax 12, not the 6 - I play outdoors on some bigger stages sometimes, so the 12 was my preferred option.

I am swinging towards 2 x Acme B2 4Ohmers....they sound like the right match. I tend to like deep and rootsy anyway, so I figure the sounds profile might work. Plus the size thing would be an advantage for me.

Whaddya think of that as an option?

That is my current small and medium club and moderate back yard BBQ rig, but I hope to pick up a 1515/66 LDS cab in the next few days, for bigger non PA support gigs.
If you are going through the PA at your fairground or muni park events those vertical stacked B-2's will work fine for your stage volume. One of my cabs came to me used but with new drivers as the owner creased the cones trying to make it do too much. Since the Acmes reproduce till failure all the lows you throw at them, I suggest the Eminence 3015lf/6mid solution of your choice including the currently cheap Avatar 3 way cab. I would have two on order if my LDS 1515/66 was not on the way. If my band had a million dollar PA with sub system I would just keep my acmes. So to put it simply, If you are playing to an outdoor crowd of a few hundred and your bass signal is not run through the PA and you have a loud band, the Acmes may or may not cut it.

[faulknersj]

My Shuttlemax 6 sounds phenomenal thru my Genz Benz NeoX 212T. It is light, small, and protable. The whole rig + bass fits perfectly in the trunk of my little Honda Civic. The Uber cabs are a great pairing as well. I believe in pairing manufacturers cabs with the heads they are developed along side. There are always exceptions of course.

[GSNOLA]

Good advice, guys. I am beginning to rethink all of a sudden...! I don't hardly play any outdoor gigs without PA, but it IS possible next year, actually. NOLA is full of gigs like that.

I am wondering if ONE B2, and something else alongside. Man, this is confusing!

I don't want to cart around a 212 - I already have one, and it is a pain in the ass to fit on some of the tiny stages here in New Orleans. It's a killer cab imho, but the size is killing me.

I need a 2-cab solution, that much is clear. I kinda thought that two B2s would cut it! Blast.....back to the drawing board?

[mntngrown]

If a 2x12 is a PITA, then forget the Avatar 3 way. same weight and box size as their 2x12. I say Dukes thunderchild x2 if you have the bucks. Kjung digs em. Duke,(audiokenisis) has a 2x12 in the works that might geterdone. just ask JimmyM;as he had a sneak peek.

[babebambi]

looks like 2x ThunderChild, or

2x AE212 seems a good match too
those AE have smaller footprint than most 212