/sigh...mini rant...

Dethrats · #1 12-01-2010, 06:48 AM

Is it just me or do others get fed up with seeing the letters "SVT" printed on non-SVT products?

we all know SVT stands for "Super Vacuum Tube". So why is it being printed on (what it seems like) ALL Ampeg gear. Now im not bashing Ampeg, I would like someone to explain how you can have a "Super Vacuum Tube" speaker? And not to mention, the SVT430H - its solid state

i know they put it on some amps to sell them, but come on, how stupid do they think we are?

Roadkill · #2 12-01-2010, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dethrats

but come on, how stupid do they think we are?

Did you really want an answer to that?

bassman1185 · #3 12-01-2010, 07:30 AM

Umm, unless I am mistaken, SVT stands for "Super Valve Technology." I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what I have read in Ampeg's literature.

jamzcl · #4 12-01-2010, 07:55 AM

my SVP-PRO preamp doesn't have an SVT on it....an it's got tubes

JTE · #5 12-01-2010, 07:57 AM

First, it's NOT "Super Vacuum Tube" at all, it is in fact "Super Valve Technology". Tubes function in audio circuits very much like valves function in plumbing, so your point is well taken. If it doesn't have tubes (and one or two 12AX7s in the preamp doesn't count), it shouldn't have "SVT" on it. But then you and I don't own the rights to the name and the people that run the companies that have and do own the rights can call it whatever they want.

Doesn't matter because I don't like 'em anyway.

John

Roadkill · #6 12-01-2010, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bassman1185

Umm, unless I am mistaken, SVT stands for "Super Valve Technology." I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what I have read in Ampeg's literature.

Hey, my Micro-VR has mosfet "valves" in it and they are pretty "super" IMO

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mowburger · #7 12-01-2010, 08:07 AM

Ampeg has pretty much built thier company on the "SVT" line of gear, it is one of the most recognized trademarks in our area of music, I would guess any product that is of "pro" grade and quality would benifit from the SVT label, labeling cabs SVT just shows that the cabs are in the same product line as thier pro SVT heads, I see your point tho, the SS heads maybe should wear a different badge, as well as Ampeg's lesser cabs, IMO labeling speaker cables SVT would be going way to far, as if you couldn't use a "regular" speaker cable with an Ampeg full stack. but again anything wearing SVT makes me automaticly think it's a "pro" product. and maybe that is their way of thinking.

Dethrats · #8 12-01-2010, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bassman1185

Umm, unless I am mistaken, SVT stands for "Super Valve Technology." I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is what I have read in Ampeg's literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampeg_SVT

Roadkill · #9 12-01-2010, 08:22 AM

Well, mosfets are made in a vacuum chamber - is that close enough?

iiipopes · #10 12-01-2010, 08:29 AM

Why is Ampeg using "SVT" on other models now? The same reason that Chevrolet is using the model name "Impala" on an automobile that does not have triple-taillights. Marketing.

BassmanPaul · #11 12-01-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JTE

First, it's NOT "Super Vacuum Tube" at all, it is in fact "Super Valve Technology". Tubes function in audio circuits very much like valves function in plumbing, so your point is well taken.

John

Add too the fact that in Europe, Australia and New Zealand (among others) tubes are known as valves.

hennessybass · #12 12-01-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dethrats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampeg_SVT

I was always under the impression that it was Super Valve Technology...

from the ampeg sight:
"Using the same sort of madness that drove Dr. Frankenstein, the team came up with a 300-watt all-tube phantasmagoria they called the Super Vacuum Tube—or SVT, to save on vowels."

guess I was wrong...

Or was I...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampeg
-- In 1969, Ampeg's Chief Engineer Bill Hughes designed the Super Valve Technology circuitry for the amplifier of the same name.

Wikipedia, much like TB, relies on people (often uninformed, or misinformed) posting on the net... just because it's on the internets doesn't make it ture!

rpsands · #13 12-01-2010, 10:19 AM

Stands Vor This!

hennessybass · #14 12-01-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hennessybass

I was always under the impression that it was Super Valve Technology...

from the ampeg sight:
"Using the same sort of madness that drove Dr. Frankenstein, the team came up with a 300-watt all-tube phantasmagoria they called the Super Vacuum Tube—or SVT, to save on vowels."

guess I was wrong...

Or was I...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampeg
-- In 1969, Ampeg's Chief Engineer Bill Hughes designed the Super Valve Technology circuitry for the amplifier of the same name.

Wikipedia, much like TB, relies on people (often uninformed, or misinformed) posting on the net... just because it's on the internets doesn't make it ture!

I know what you are thinking... go with the official Ampeg sight, not wikipedia. It must be Super Vacuum Tube

... but wait!! Also from the official ampeg sight - "The Classic Series is all about the Ampeg SVT. We pioneered Super-Valve Technology in the 1960s and continue to offer the ultimate, top-performance gear to the world's most demanding bassists."

Looks like Ampeg can't even agree on what SVT stands for.

greenboy · #15 12-01-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hennessybass

I know what you are thinking... go with the official Ampeg sight, not wikipedia. It must be Super Vacuum Tube

... but wait!! Also from the official ampeg sight - "The Classic Series is all about the Ampeg SVT. We pioneered Super-Valve Technology in the 1960s and continue to offer the ultimate, top-performance gear to the world's most demanding bassists."

Looks like Ampeg can't even agree on what SVT stands for.

Since everybody is getting all worked up about two variations that mean essentially the same thing anyway, I thought I'd just pucker up the ol' recumbent endcap myself and mention that the word is site ; }

Gort · #16 12-01-2010, 10:45 AM

From this Ampeg History page...

"the team came up with a 300-watt all-tube phantasmagoria they called the Super Vacuum Tube—or SVT"

The SVT Story

And from Ampeg's own Milestones page:

"Ampeg develops the monster amp rig that sets the tone, punch and arena-rattling standard for all future big gun bass amps: the 300 watt SVT or "Super Vacuum Tube" amp, with a pair of 8 x 10" cabinets."

Ampeg Milestones

JimmyM · #17 12-01-2010, 10:48 AM

svt answers to both.

anyway, if i owned ampeg, i would slap "svt" on everything. "svt" sells, and if i owned the trademark on it, i would certainly make the best of it. i would make a b-15 called the svt b-15. ok, not really, but the b2re would be called the svt b2re if i owned it

Gort · #18 12-01-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyM

svt answers to both.

Yes it does, the story I heard was that SVT was changed for the British market to "Super Valve Technology" since the term valve is used for tubes in Britain.

And here's an SVT to haul your SVT...

greenboy · #19 12-01-2010, 10:55 AM

Go figure ; }

I mean, DANGER MAN and SECRET AGENT MAN, international market development, sheesh...

DanNowhere · #20 12-01-2010, 10:56 AM

y'all still buy Coke expecting there to be cocaine in it?